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 Posted:   Mar 27, 2015 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Another one of my top 5 favorite Bond films. This was the first Bond movie I saw and got me into the series. I really like Dalton, and everything about the movie.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2015 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Both of Dalton's Bonds are much to my liking. One note about LTK: it was about my seventh viewing before I watched Anthony Zerbe meet his fate with my eyes open.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2015 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Both of Dalton's Bonds are much to my liking. One note about LTK: it was about my seventh viewing before I watched Anthony Zerbe meet his fate with my eyes open.

We seem to be on the same page with Bond!smileI truly love all the Bond films, just some more than others.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Although I wasn't a big fan of Dalton's debut as Bond, I really love Licence To Kill and think it stands up really well.

John Glen - very much a journey-man director in all but action sequences - seemed to have really gone up a notch for this film. The baddie is one of the best ever, Dalton is a convincing action hero, Kamen's score is pretty decent and Carey Lowell is stunning after she loses the very poor fitting wig she has on at the start of the film.

And the action sequences are cracking, especially the pre-credit sequence and the fabulous tanker chase at the end.

The film isn't perfect of course - Caroline Bliss still can't act as Moneypenny and that bloody winking fish at the end is just awful, but overall its a terrific movie and showed that the abond films could be played with a serious edge without going into the glumness of the Craig era.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

For me Licence to Kill was the last of the really great (i.e. enjoyable) JB007 films ... when the end result left me feeling satisfied that I had watched an enjoyable film, notwithstanding the faults which all of the films (as with all films) in the long-running series have. That's not to say all 15 earlier entries were as great but since 1989 none of the 7 films have entertained me anywhere near as much as this one.

When I think about it I struggle to decide whether I prefer this or The Living Daylights so I usually stop thinking about it and rate them 3rd= behind Thunderball and OHMSS.

There's many an article about how the film was poorly promoted, its stiff competition during a summer release, its more serious and/or basic story-line and the upping of violence. And then there's the view that Timothy Dalton was not right for the part.

I wasn't sorry to see either Sean Connery or Roger Moore step aside ... I was very sorry that Timothy Dalton didn't make a third but he didn't and I can't change that.

These recent threads about several (so far) of the titles shows that the filmmakers can't please everyone all of the time - I'm simply glad that this film was made and it is as it is notwithstanding there are a few things I would change.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Dalton remains the best Bond to date.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

My opinion has changed dramatically since the first time I saw it. Started out not caring for it, but now it's one of my favorites.
Dalton has become my favorite Bond, and I'm glad he was spared the rubbish that came after him. He stopped exactly when the world stopped being interesting and fun.
Dalton is the most rounded out character; not the creep that is Connery's bond, not the clown that is Moore and not the emo thug that is Craig. He portrayed a light and agile Bond and not the tank Bond is now. The things I like about Dalton's Bond are those things that made him unloved with a large audiene.

LTK's plot is also unique in that it's drug hunt; no big world domination, no spying or nation against nation. It has the most realistic enemy which is expertly played too. No cartoon henchman (however fun they are) but a miserable sadistic pisser who you wish to die in the horrible way he does at the end.
Another unique thing is that Bond really infiltrates, and befriends his enemy, and that he uses the Mission Impossible method of divide and conquer. He creates doubt after doubt, making the bad guy kill his own allies.

Except for the truck chase, which is not spectacular but Moorishly over the top, I love this film.

Gladys Night's song is also smooth and powerful and not the earrape that is everything that came after it or the audiosonic sandblast that is Bassey.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

That's Richard Maibaum's story and script and ideas Disc Stu praises, and rightfully so.

Sean Connery's Bond was never a creep, and Shirley Bassey's vocals were never a sonicblast. If it weren't for these two remarks I'd agree with everything Disc Stu said.

Also, Timothy Dalton was much loved by the widespread audience in 1989.

I wish the Wayne Newton business had not been added to the film. One of those stupid and unnecessary sidetracks that is neither funny, nor exciting nor relevant that Michael Wilson patted himself on the back for. It slows things down. I also wish the film had a different director. John Glen was a plodding mediocrity. He never knew whose scene it was or what was important, and he didn't take good camera care of Timothy Dalton, who was worth his weight in gold.

The photography is flat and boring and Michael Kamen's music, although it starts out well on a downbeat, is as uninspired as the directing. Nevertheless I like the film and watch it occasionally. I agree with Music Mad, it's the last genuine James Bond film, flaws and all.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 7:31 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

I liked Dalton's Bond a lot though like Brosnan and Craig he lacks charisma, something Connery*, Moore and Lazenby had in spades.

*Connery's is off the scale which is why he's still THE Bond for many.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 10:32 PM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

I much prefer The Living Daylights to LTK, and that extends to Dalton's performance--which was pitch-perfect in his debut.

It's the best "Bond" performance this side of Connery in Goldfinger.

I think Daylights is the best "Bond" film, period. Not perfect, but the closest to it EON ever got.

Dan

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 11:09 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

I have to agree, TLD is one of the best Bond films ever made. Dalton was wonderful in it, but audiences just didn't warm to him. I believe it was Roger Ebert who called him the "humorless" Bond, which I disagree with.

It's only been through hind sight and the not so good Brosnan years that people have begun to appreciate what they just didn't see back then.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

That's Richard Maibaum's story and script and ideas Disc Stu praises.

Sorry to be a "vicious troll", Richard, but Michael G Wilson wrote the screenplay for LTK. Maibaum worked with Wilson on the original treatment and it's fair to say he made a huge contribution to that, but due to the 1988 WGA strike Maibaum didn't actually write any part of the screenplay.

For someone who has as much to say about the Bond franchise as you do, you do seem to get your facts wrong quite a lot.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Dalton remains the best Bond to date.

Back in the 80s I wouldn't have agreed with this at all, but in retrospect I completely agree.

He was too tense, nervous and lacking in humour the first time out for my liking but by LTK he had relaxed into the role and I really liked him in it. It's a huge shame he never got to return as Bond for a third outing.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 3:28 AM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

The transition from the hijinks of Moore to the harder edge of Dalton was just too much to take for most people at the time.

Dalton probably comes closest to Fleming's Bond, but that version had pretty much been forgotten by most people after almost 2 decades of silly comedy.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

Both of Dalton's Bonds are much to my liking. One note about LTK: it was about my seventh viewing before I watched Anthony Zerbe meet his fate with my eyes open.


I think it was just a paper-mache painted balloon or something.

He carried on making films afterwards, so he was ok.

big grin

 
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