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 Posted:   Mar 1, 2015 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)

Is there more Max Steiner on CD coming up in 2015?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2015 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

I certainly hope so, I'll buy any Steiner releases that come out. There are so many wonderful Steiner scores that have never been officially released from the original master tracks. Just off-hand I'd love to get original tacks of Springfield Rifle, Now Voyager, Rocky Mountain, The FBI Story, The Big Sleep, The Hanging Tree, Rome Adventure etc etc, the list is huge. I know that old-timer PFK would buy a few too, lol!

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2015 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   finder4545   (Member)

And also Codi1949. Krakatoa and Niall from Ireland, you were reading in my mind! I was just putting order in old Steiner's materials and found extensive suites on acetate copies. some of them already issued on Cd (THE SEARCHERS, DISTANT DRUMS), but many others still waiting for a release. My attention went on ROCKY MOUNTAIN and DALLAS, of which I found transcriptions on Sony Mini Discs coming from reel-to-reel tapes. After correction of the pitch, I found ROCKY MOUNTAIN about 44 mins. DALLAS was around 19 min, but I have to control the pitch, timing with precision the sparse (and this time helpful) "tics". Two 1950's westerns with Steiner on Flynn and Cooper!!! A dream! Who wouldn't buy them?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2015 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

And also Codi1949. Krakatoa and Niall from Ireland, you were reading in my mind! I was just putting order in old Steiner's materials and found extensive suites on acetate copies. some of them already issued on Cd (THE SEARCHERS, DISTANT DRUMS), but many others still waiting for a release. My attention went on ROCKY MOUNTAIN and DALLAS, of which I found transcriptions on Sony Mini Discs coming from reel-to-reel tapes. After correction of the pitch, I found ROCKY MOUNTAIN about 44 mins. DALLAS was around 19 min, but I have to control the pitch, timing with precision the sparse (and this time helpful) "tics". Two 1950's westerns with Steiner on Flynn and Cooper!!! A dream! Who wouldn't buy them?

I'd certainly buy them my friend! There's wonderful music in Rocky Mountain, I've always enjoyed that film too. Similiarly, Springfield Rifle starring Gary Copper has fantastic music. Here's hoping that some more Max Steiner music will emerge from the vaults soon.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2015 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I certainly hope so, I'll buy any Steiner releases that come out. There are so many wonderful Steiner scores that have never been officially released from the original master tracks. Just off-hand I'd love to get original tacks of Springfield Rifle, Now Voyager, Rocky Mountain, The FBI Story, The Big Sleep, The Hanging Tree, Rome Adventure etc etc, the list is huge. I know that old-timer PFK would buy a few too, lol!



" Old-timer !" ? Me? It's a good thing for you Niall that we are separated by the Atlantic Ocean! Now I know why my great Grandfather left Ireland in 1872! smile

Good choices Niall. I especially would like to see The Hanging Tree and Springfield Rifle. But of course I'll buy any new Max Steiner!

Ray said a few months back that he and BYU are working on some Steiner CDs and there have been delays etc. He also said: "Lawyers!" mad

I also get the feeling WB is slow to deal with. Still, as I have mentioned before only BYU has really given us any Steiner CDs right from the soundtrack, and they have been slow or quiet in recent years. The Morgan/Stromberg team have given us great new recordings, but they might not be able to continue their fantastic series.

If some labels want to do Steiner I would suggest westerns if at all possible. At 2,000 copies Shane sold out and Gunfight At The OK Corral has less than 60 left! Doug at Intrada recently said their Rio Bravo is doing great and quickly sold out the first pressing, they are pressing more.

We need more Max Steiner! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2015 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I am standing with everyone who seeks more Max Steiner scores on CD. Mr.Steiner is a highly neglected composer from the specialty labels. That needs to change !

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2015 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I am standing with everyone who seeks more Max Steiner scores on CD. Mr.Steiner is a highly neglected composer from the specialty labels. That needs to change !



Thanks for the Steiner support Cody!

Let's hope this year BYU (and others) will pull through for us! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   algonrei   (Member)

Talking about Steiner westerns I would also add A Distant Trumpet but I doubt anything survives apart from the main theme.

The Hanging Tree would be an instant purchase from me.. what do I say? Any Steiner's western would...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Talking about Steiner westerns I would also add A Distant Trumpet but I doubt anything survives apart from the main theme.


Well, in 2004 Ray Faiola wrote here "we will definitely do A DISTANT TRUMPET on BYU":
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=21791&forumID=1&archive=1

So normally the tapes should exist at Warners, but it is strange that nothing has happened regarding this score throughout all these last 10 years.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)


It would be great to have his lovely, 1957 score for “The Day They Gave Babies Away”.




 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm not always wild about Steiner, but I'd spring for a reissue of The Flame and the Arrow with improved sound...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I've always been happy with the Marco Polo 1997 Stromberg and Morgan/Moscow Symphony re-recording of Steiner's KING KONG, but I think Stromberg and Morgan aren't that happy with it, and I do think some parts of it are a little too slow in tempo compared to the original recording. So, another stab at it would be a CD, if successful at making Stromberg and Morgan finally happy, I'd buy in a heartbeat. And, make it a two CD set with the score for SON OF KONG, which I've never bought on CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

How about a legit 2-CD HELEN OF TROY?

Finally...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

To update, and add some titles to what I said earlier, I'd especially love to get any of these from the original mastertapes if they still exist. These are films of which I particularly remember enjoying the music when I watched from time to time.

The Life of Emile Zola(1937)
Jezebel(1938)
They Made Me A Criminal(1939)
Virginia City(1940)
City For Conquest(1940)
A Dispatch from Reuters(1940)
Santa Fe Trail(1940)
Captains of the Clouds(1942)
Now Voyager(1942)
Passage to Marseille(1944)
Saratoga Trunk(1946)
The Big Sleep(1946)
Rocky Mountain(1950)
Springfield Rifle(1952)
So Big(1953)
Come Next Spring(1955)
Bandido(1956)
Fort Dobbs(1958)
The Hanging Tree(1959)
The F.B.I Story(1959)
Rome Adventure(1962)
A Distant Trumpet(1964)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

To update, and add some titles to what I said earlier, I'd especially love to get any of these from the original mastertapes if they still exist. These are films of which I particularly remember enjoying the music when I watched from time to time.

The Life of Emile Zola(1937)
Jezebel(1938)
They Made Me A Criminal(1939)
Virginia City(1940)
City For Conquest(1940)
A Dispatch from Reuters(1940)
Santa Fe Trail(1940)
Captains of the Clouds(1942)
Now Voyager(1942)
Passage to Marseille(1944)
Saratoga Trunk(1946)
The Big Sleep(1946)
Rocky Mountain(1950)
Springfield Rifle(1952)
So Big(1953)
Come Next Spring(1955)
Bandido(1956)
Fort Dobbs(1958)
The Hanging Tree(1959)
The F.B.I Story(1959)
Rome Adventure(1962)
A Distant Trumpet(1964)




I would buy every one of these scores Niall! smile

I think Ray said Rome Adventure was missing but Parrish was there.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   alintgen   (Member)

Speaking of all of those 1940s WB scores, how about One Foot in Heaven! The Main Title music is the most amazing demonstration of Steiner's massive brass chords. Then, of course, a complete new recording of Helen of Troy.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Talking about Steiner westerns I would also add A Distant Trumpet but I doubt anything survives apart from the main theme.


Well, in 2004 Ray Faiola wrote here "we will definitely do A DISTANT TRUMPET on BYU":
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=21791&forumID=1&archive=1

So normally the tapes should exist at Warners, but it is strange that nothing has happened regarding this score throughout all these last 10 years.




I remember this topic of 10 years ago, I even posted on it!

Strange indeed. I guess there is always hope.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I, too, would welcome more original Steiner tracks, from any period (each decade seems to have its own unique musical sound). Some of my own personal wants:

THE ADVENTURES OF MARK TWAIN
THE MIRACLE OF OUR LADY OF FATIMA
SPRINGFIELD RIFLE
KING RICHARD AND THE CRUSADERS (Epic score - a great one!)
HELEN OF TROY
ESCAPADE IN JAPAN
ALL MINE TO GIVE (It has one of Steiner's best finales. I applaud CH-CD's vote for this score.)

and just about any of the unreleased 1960s scores:
PARRISH
A MAJORITY OF ONE
ROME ADVENTURE (if it exists)
SPENCER'S MOUNTAIN (Please!)
A DISTANT TRUMPET
YOUNGBLOOD HAWKE,

and yes, even:

TWO ON A GUILLOTINE

Yes, I know that theme for the bunny can get annoying, but this score is historically important as Max's last, and contains some great stuff, such as the whole opening pre-credit sequence/Main Title, the nightmare sequence and the climactic fight scene between Caesar Romero and Dean Jones. I would love to have this score.

I realize that ESCAPADE IN JAPAN ans ALL MINE TO GIVE are probably gone, being RKO films, whose holdings seem to be irretrievably lost. But, who knows? Were those films recorded at RKO or elsewhere? The distinct reverb applied to the ALL MINE TO GIVE music seems to indicate that the film was mixed at Warners, who picked up the distribution of a few of RKO's last films. Does Warners have any of those tracks? Plus, ESCAPADE IN JAPAN was eventually released by Universal-International. Is there any chance those tracks might be at Universal?

It's a shame Warners transferred their pre-1960s stereo stuff to mono safety copies, then dumped the stereo masters. We will now be deprived of hearing those great 1950s scores (by Steiner or anyone else) in stereo, except while watching DVDs of those films. But, as I recall, some of the 1960s stuff was still still extant in stereo. (Ray, you're probably the guy who can tell us what is still in existence.) But at least we might get KING RICHARD in mono.

At any rate, I say, "Yes please, more Steiner CDs."

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

For me, it's The Big Sleep and Key Largo, whether original or newly recorded. Big Sleep especially always seemed to me a good candidate for a re-recording, as it's one of the archetypal film noirs and also probably the biggest Bogie/Bacall films.

I'm not nearly as a big an afficianado of Steiner as others here (though I almost always enjoy his music in the films), but I would love to hear every minute of these two. Or just Big Sleep!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I will also second THE BIG SLEEP and KEY LARGO.

 
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