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 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

From Carpenter's press tour for Lost Themes, he got interviewed about In the Mouth of Madness where he mentioned that the excellent main theme track was inspired by a then contemporary Metallica temp track, which I can only assume was "Enter Sandman" at the time.

Why did you decide to go with a hard-rock sound for the film’s theme, as opposed to your usual synth approach?

Carpenter: We did temporary scoring, which you tend to do on movies when you want to show them to people to get their reactions, and the editor put Metallica out front — a famous Metallica song that eludes me right now — but it was fabulous. I saw the audience bopping their heads, and I said, oh, let me do something like this. I mean not something like it, but something along these lines. That’s where it came from. Blame it on Metallica.


http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/12/05/in-the-mouth-of-john-carpenters-misunderstood-masterpiece/



 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Interesting, Francis - ta for that.

I like to know these things. I can bop my head to a bit of Metallica any day of the week (well, I can kind of nod slowly), but that Carpenter take was totally inappropriate for the film. Sometimes a Carpenter score does work, but more often than not I think he's his own worst enemy.

All in my humble, aged and conservative opinion, of course.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

I'm not a fan of Carpenter's music when he strays into Rock music. I much prefer his electronic collaborations with Alan Howarth. It seems he must feel the same way, with Lost Themes echoing that period (and Goblin, it appears).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

That title track from Mouth of Madness along with his Ghosts of Mars score I can really appreciate for the heavy rock influences, I can appreciate it as much as his earlier scores with Howarth. I guess I'm in the minority here when it comes to enjoying a good guitar solo on the big screen. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I don't mind heavy rock on its own, or in film when the context is right. It's just that neither IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS nor GHOSTS OF MARS benefitted from that approach. What was the other one... VAMPIRES or something?

I think John Carpenter is a pretty cool dude, but he doesn't have to prove how cool he is by using headbanging rock for psychological thrillers, monster movies and SF. I suppose it's his stylistic fingerprint, but I find it very resistible.

It reminds me a bit of when I was a kid and bought a lot of monster mags, only to find that there was an awful lot of coverage of wrestling and tattoos. Never quite got the connection... has it anything to do with Alice Cooper or something like that?

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

That crazy looking church is still standing. I've been there!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I don't mind heavy rock on its own, or in film when the context is right. It's just that neither IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS nor GHOSTS OF MARS benefitted from that approach. What was the other one... VAMPIRES or something?

Well to be fair Mouth of Madness only had the one track for the main and end titles, the rest was synth. Ghost of Mars is definitely more guitar heavy and Vampires is more of a biker blues western approach, I never cared that much for the latter (movie either though Woods is ok in it).


I think John Carpenter is a pretty cool dude, but he doesn't have to prove how cool he is by using headbanging rock for psychological thrillers, monster movies and SF. I suppose it's his stylistic fingerprint, but I find it very resistible.


I think it also has to do with his movies being embraced by the metal genre, guitarist buckethead even fashioned his whole image after Halloween's Michael and performs on Ghosts of Mars. I'd say it wasn't uncommon in the late 80s or throughout the 90s for metal songs to be featured on soundtracks and even in the movie itself.


It reminds me a bit of when I was a kid and bought a lot of monster mags, only to find that there was an awful lot of coverage of wrestling and tatoos. Never quite got the connection... has it anything to do with Alice Cooper or something like that?


See previous answer. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

That crazy looking church is still standing. I've been there!

Cool. Were there any dogs?!? big grin

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

That crazy looking church is still standing. I've been there!

Yeah, where is it again?

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   moroder20   (Member)


I like the Main title and i like the score in collaboration with jim lang ...
I hope someone will release in expanded score ...

For me it's the last good score by John Carpenter with Body Bags (first mini movie)

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

No dogs but I did have to hop a fence and technically trespass, so hopefully no guard dogs either.

It's in Markham I think. You can see it off the 401 east.

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

I 2 saw that church way back in 1995 and I was hoping for
Alice Cooper & the crazies to ooze out from the alleyways!

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

No dogs but I did have to hop a fence and technically trespass, so hopefully no guard dogs either.

It's in Markham I think. You can see it off the 401 east.


We have friends near there. I need to remember next time we're heading in that direction. It'd be cool to trek to the few ITMOM locations near us.

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2015 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

There's also the school from Class of 1984 over on Bathurst...

 
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