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Tempted to making that my desktop image.
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Feb 19, 2015 - 12:20 PM
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Zooba
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From all accounts I've ever heard or seen, these two Masters truly admired each other as composers. When I first moved to L.A. in 1984 I attended a Film music concert at the Music Center/Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. Goldsmith was the Special Guest Conductor presenting his music from THE TWILIGHT ZONE MOVIE and UNDER FIRE which featured Special Guest Guitar Soloist Tommy Tedesco. Also in attendance was Tom Scott and his Dad Nathan Scott, Robert Kraft and Dave Grusin. What a show! Anyway, being new in town and wanting to meet Jerry Goldsmith, I got there early and hung out at the Artists Entrance. Jerry never showed. After the concert which was phenomenal, I returned to the Artist Entrance where again, no Jerry, but I met a very nice gentleman who was also there to see Jerry. It was Maestro John Williams. Couldn't believe it. I think I said something stupid like "John Williams, what are you doing here?" and he said "I'm here to see my friend Jerry Goldsmith and congratulate him on such a fine performance." Anyway, John was so nice and cordial and we spoke for a bit, where I was able to tell him how much his music had meant to me. He graciously signed my program, as did Tommy Tedesco who was totally cool. The great John Williams was there for "his friend" Jerry Goldsmith. What a great day and night that was and one that I will never forget!
I was lucky to attend the 2005 John Williams Hollywood Bowl Concert where John did his wonderful Tribute to David Raksin, Elmer Bernstein and Jerry Goldsmith who we had lost the previous year. John spoke highly of the three greats he said he had the privilege to have worked with in their orchestras as pianist. Great tribute!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJeBPYK7C2c
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When I first moved to L.A. in 1984 I attended a Film music concert at the Music Center/Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. Goldsmith was the Special Guest Conductor presenting his music from THE TWILIGHT ZONE MOVIE and UNDER FIRE which featured Special Guest Guitar Soloist Tommy Tedesco. Also in attendance was Tom Scott and his Dad Nathan Scott, Robert Kraft and Dave Grusin. What a show! Anyway, being new in town and wanting to meet Jerry Goldsmith, I got there early and hung out at the Artists Entrance. Jerry never showed. After the concert which was phenomenal, I returned to the Artist Entrance where again, no Jerry, but I met a very nice gentleman who was also there to see Jerry. It was Maestro John Williams. Couldn't believe it. I think I said something stupid like "John Williams, what are you doing here?" and he said "I'm here to see my friend Jerry Goldsmith and congratulate him on such a fine performance." Anyway, John was so nice and cordial and we spoke for a bit, where I was able to tell him how much his music had meant to me. He graciously signed my program, as did Tommy Tedesco who was totally cool. The great John Williams was there for "his friend" Jerry Goldsmith. What a great day and night that was and one that I will never forget!
That's a great story!
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Feb 19, 2015 - 12:24 PM
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Thor
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From all accounts I've ever heard or seen, these two Masters truly admired each other as composers. When I first moved to L.A. in 1984 I attended a Film music concert at the Music Center/Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. Goldsmith was the Special Guest Conductor presenting his music from THE TWILIGHT ZONE MOVIE and UNDER FIRE which featured Special Guest Guitar Soloist Tommy Tedesco. Also in attendance was Tom Scott and his Dad Nathan Scott, Robert Kraft and Dave Grusin. What a show! Anyway, being new in town and wanting to meet Jerry Goldsmith, I got there early and hung out at the Artists Entrance. Jerry never showed. After the concert which was phenomenal, I returned to the Artist Entrance where again, no Jerry, but I met a very nice gentleman who was also there to see Jerry. It was Maestro John Williams. Couldn't believe it. I think I said something stupid like "John Williams, what are you doing here?" and he said "I'm here to see my friend Jerry Goldsmith and congratulate him on such a fine performance." Anyway, John was so nice and cordial and we spoke for a bit, where I was able to tell him how much his music had meant to me. He graciously signed my program, as did Tommy Tedesco who was totally cool. The great John Williams was there for "his friend" Jerry Goldsmith. What a great day and night that was and one that I will never forget!
That's a sweet story. You're lucky to have been part of the film music scene when such things were possible, zooba. These days, Williams is more shielded than the Pope and Barack Obama combined.
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Though one fan has made an effort. I recall an JWFan member who said she's two or three times -- in her attempt to meet him -- chased down the car he was in, but to no avail. If only she had been an olympic athlete, we might have a hell of a cool story.
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Not to be mean, but just look at Goldsmith's "turkey neck"! This was definitely taken in the 90s!
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Feb 19, 2015 - 3:50 PM
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TownerFan
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That's a sweet story. You're lucky to have been part of the film music scene when such things were possible, zooba. These days, Williams is more shielded than the Pope and Barack Obama combined.
And with only good reasons, actually, considering he's usually stalked by insufferable autograph-seeking creeps.
Back on topic--Williams and Goldsmith always had deep mutual admiration and respect for each other. Back in their early days in the industry they crossed paths more often than not--they both were employed at Universal/Revue under Stanley Wilson and also crossed paths at Fox. They surely had a friendly relationship, but they were also friendly rivals and competitors, especially from the late 1970s onward. It's perfectly understandable if you consider they have been the two single top names on almost every producer list for a long time when it came to big projects. In Jon Burlingame's 2002 interview for the Archive of American Television (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ7ICPKcqJc), when Jerry talks about the years at Revue working alongside Williams, Grusin, Schifrin et al., at one point he says quite candidly that they were all peeking their ear to listen to what each other was doing and this pushed them to work better and harder on their stuff, to show producers and directors around they were the best. It was healthy competition among peers, pushed at its best also because they were walking around the same corridors and stages every day (something nowadays is totally impossible--all composers work in the safe environment of their home studios and very rarely interact with each other, save for award luncheons and parties).
In Carrie Goldsmith's excerpts from the unpublished biography that were posted a few years ago there were some scathing remarks about Williams, but from the way it was worded it sounds more like old-age bitterness than anything else.
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