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you really need to find a copy of the RHINO long-box 2 cd set. this has the full score.
its hard to find now so it might be pricey,but its well worth getting
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I agree that the Gerhardt is a great "concert-type" experience, with wonderful sound (to my non-audiophile ears).
Are we allowed to talk about the Steiner Society tapes? They seem to represent some kind of holy grail if you want every last take of every last cue.
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Actually, the Society tapes only have one cue that is not on the Rhino album (I believe it's during the roadside farewell near the end of Act One). And the Rhino has several cues not on the MSMS tapes.
Off topic: May I trouble you, Ray, to clear up one thing that has bothered me for eons? Which cue on the cd is the one that on the MSMS tapes has the annotation "Pretty Quadroon Chorus"?
One topic: I have heard the Rhino 2-disc set, and as much as I thought it would pale against the Gerhardt stereo, it really is worth having. As soon as I find one, I'll be buying it.
BTW, I keep seeing the Gerhardt for cheap, Richad, so nab it when you see it.
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I'm just watching Gone with the wind on blu-ray.
I assume it has been discussed, although i can't find anything right now, but any particular reason the rhino release is missing overture, intermission, entr'acte (film version) and exit music?
i see a small part of the intermission music is included in an older single cd i have..
edit: oh, i guess the answer lies in the link previously posted.
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I agree that the Gerhardt is a great "concert-type" experience, with wonderful sound (to my non-audiophile ears).
To my audiophile ear (no plural after my brain tumor surgery), too!
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Please reissue this, please. I'm thanking you (whoever you are) in advance: Thank you. 
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Feb 10, 2016 - 3:47 AM
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Dadid L
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Please reissue this, please. I'm thanking you (whoever you are) in advance: Thank you.
The Gerhardt (best sounding though not as complete as the Rhino) was actually reissued and re-mastered not so awfully long ago, and is even more fantastic sounding than the original CD:
http://www.amazon.com/Gone-Wind-Steiners-Classic-Scores/dp/B0041GWWQ4/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1455079177&sr=1-2&keywords=gone+with+the+wind+cd
The only bone I have to pick with this recording is Gerhardt's omission of the choral "Dixie" reference in the main title. On the other hand, the final cue is stellar musically as well as sonically, and just knocks my socks off every time. I guess you can't have it all. For my money, the music in this recording seals the deal for Steiner as a top top drawer film music composer, however much disrespect he may get (some deservedly) for all the Viennese-style schmaltzy stuff, all the "mickey-mousing" and all those quotations from folk songs and military airs that populate his more mundane scores. GWTW just soars! Gerhardt knocked this one out of the park.
The Gerhardts recording is great, sure, but it's a re-arrangement (by Chris Palmer ?) "At the depot" is strangely overdone, as is the finale - spectacular but re-written, unfaithfull to the original, and partially loosing its anthemic, "simple grandeur" quality. I like this recording, but it's far from definitive in my book.
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The Gerhardts recording is great, sure, but it's a re-arrangement (by Chris Palmer ?) "At the depot" is strangely overdone, as is the finale - spectacular but re-written, unfaithfull to the original, and partially loosing its anthemic, "simple grandeur" quality. I like this recording, but it's far from definitive in my book.
Indeed, the Gerhardt recording is excellent and very much worth seeking out, but it is lacking all the choral music from GWTW, so it is in no way "definitive". It's a first class arrangement.
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Feb 10, 2016 - 10:17 AM
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Jim Doherty
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If you want the most amount amount of music, you have to go for the Rhino 2-CD set.
What I don't think anyone mentioned is that the Gerhardt recording is nothing more than a slightly expanded version of the suite that Steiner put together in 1954 or '56, or so. All the changes mentioned (like the finale, etc.) were done by Steiner with the intention of making the suite a more well-rounded listening experience. The suite was recorded by Steiner for RCA (later reissued as as an RCA Camden LP and then a poorly advertised RCA CD (which also included Steiner's 1950s recordings of themes from THE SEARCHERS, THE CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE, and more). It also received several more recordings by Cyril Ornadel, Walter Stott (later known as Angela Morley), and Muir Mathieson.
My favorite recording of this suite (probably because it was the first I heard, and therefore became ingrained in my mind), was the one on the Warner Brothers LP, conducted by Muir Mathieson. It was later reissued on a Stanyon LP and as a CD on both Sonic Images and Laserlight.
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