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 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....On the several hundred titles I worked on...I really tried to do them as best we could.....


Lukas.....this sounds like some sort of apology, and you have NOTHING to apologize for.

Your work (and the work of your associates) on the FSM releases was top-notch and we are lucky to have them.

But, if someone else revisits a handful of your releases decades later (as has been done) and is able, with new tools and technology, to upgrade a few of them this is a plus, and should not be considered a negative mark against the fine work you did earlier.

(And.....at my age now I can well understand your disinterest in reliving old memories and work projects of the past! The work is done and it's time to move on.)


Forgetting the immediate film music arena for a moment, we have already seen the chemical preservation and restoration of important motion pictures once, and even more times, in fine new renditions, and then much later the same elements with which the original restorers worked were pulled out again, transferred, cleaned-up digitally and new digital high-definition preservation masters and transfers were made that not only looked and sounded glorious, but also enabled these films to survive many, many more years intact---just before their original elements deteriorated beyond repair.

This kind of thing, when applied to the entertainment arts, is one of the good values of modern technology for which we can be grateful.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2015 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Lukas,

Your body of work at FSM is peerless in the realm of golden and silver age soundtrack releases. Each release was meticulously produced with the best sound possible at the time, and no label has equaled the quality of the supporting information in the booklets. I treasure each release that I own (about 150 of them, including the box sets). You should be very proud.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2015 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I just listened to the Soldier of Fortune portion of our CD, it's 25 minutes and absolutely lovely. You know I love you guys, and I am one of you, but sometimes the complaining is too much!
Lukas


I'm not sure anyone is complaining about the FSM cd, and stroppy merely omitted it more as a typo in his request for a complete re-recording (which I hope you dont take personally).
After some of the recent remasterings of older releases, and seeing the PSYCHO blu-ray feature on how they rendered that music into a 5.1 audiotrack, I can see why fans might inquire about a remastering of the SOLDIER originals. It's only about exploiting new tech possibilities, not a reflection of your work.

Btw, any chance you'll guide some other label into the UCLA holdings?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2015 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I must say I didn't see any complaint in the first post. As the years go by, the technology gets better, but the tapes get worse, so a new re-master is not always going to be an improvement on the first go. This really is a classic FSM release (& very generous too at 73minutes), as much as I love Soldier Of Fortune, I love the other score on the CD even better, Between Heaven & Hell, it makes a great companion piece to Intrada's, In Love & War. Of all the fifties soundtracks I have, Hugo Friedhofer easily gets the most plays, so thank you, FSM, Intrada, Kritzerland & Varese.

I really like the sound of fifties Fox soundtracks, & wouldn't be that keen on new recordings. The recording would be better, but I'm not sure the performance would.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2015 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I must say I didn't see any complaint in the first post. As the years go by, the technology gets better, but the tapes get worse, so a new re-master is not always going to be an improvement on the first go. This really is a classic FSM release (& very generous too at 73minutes), as much as I love Soldier Of Fortune, I love the other score on the CD even better, Between Heaven & Hell, it makes a great companion piece to Intrada's, In Love & War. Of all the fifties soundtracks I have, Hugo Friedhofer easily gets the most plays, so thank you, FSM, Intrada, Kritzerland & Varese.

I really like the sound of fifties Fox soundtracks, & wouldn't be that keen on new recordings. The recording would be better, but I'm not sure the performance would.


well said.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2015 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


Lukas, certainly no complaint about your work, which is always first rate.

Only sad that the two Freidhofer scores did not have MORE music on them and so more complete.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2015 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


No complaints from me either Lukas. The FSM CDs could not have been done any better. I sure miss them, all were beautifully done. smile

It sounds like Lukas got to Soldier of Fortune in the nick of time and was able to save what he did. Looks like all the tracks are too damaged now.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2015 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

-- wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask Mike Mattesino, who is the one who restores so many of these?


In other threads (such as the Golden Age titles @ Paramount speculations) a similar notion was mentioned.
Guys like John Davis, James Nelson, Chris Malone as well as Mr. Mattesino are the ones doing restorative work and album mastering ... and they work on these items months (if not years) prior to the commerical album releases.

Some of us guessed that there'd be a Hugo Friedhofer @ Paramount disc in the pipeline - and there was! In July 2014, some of us FSMers were guessing about tracks for NO MAN OF HER OWN and THUNDER IN THE EAST - and these two scores did indeed show up in October 2014 on Intrada (instead of Kritzerland) but paired with WILD HARVEST and not ACE IN THE HOLE.
Thing is - none of those guys even hinted that some of our guesses were coming to fruition.
Not one of any of the 'insiders' offered any comments about 3 Paramount Friedhofers coming in 3 months' time.

Feel free to ask, but folks involved in album preparation are very tight-lipped about what's in the can already but not yet officially announced/released.

As for my own wishing, I have wondered why Nick Redman hasn't issued an inventory disclosing what titles exist inside 20th Century-Fox. For example, do sound elements from Friedhofer's THE OUTCASTS OF POKER FLAT exist? If so, why no album yet? If not, maybe other titles do exist which we're not even thinking about. Imagine if such a disclosure list existed - we could each indicate which soundtracks we would like to see produced. As it is, I sometimes think we collectors are at the 'mercy' of producers' tastes and their priorities (and the sound mixers, too).

I recall asking around 1999 or Y2K if Sol Kaplan's NIAGARA exists @ Fox. Mr. Kendall said he didn't know. Years later, what surfaces onto an Intrada CD? NIAGARA! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2015 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)


As for my own wishing, I have wondered why Nick Redman hasn't issued an inventory disclosing what titles exist inside 20th Century-Fox. For example, do sound elements from Friedhofer's THE OUTCASTS OF POKER FLAT exist? If so, why no album yet? If not, maybe other titles do exist which we're not even thinking about. Imagine if such a disclosure list existed - we could each indicate which soundtracks we would like to see produced. As it is, I sometimes think we collectors are at the 'mercy' of producers' tastes and their priorities (and the sound mixers, too).


I'd like Friedhofer's White Feather '55 & Harline's 23 Paces To Baker Street '56, but the tapes could be NG as far as I know. I don't blame these people for not telling us what they're working on, or what's available, or what's coming out in the future. I think it's the worse thing they could do, they'd be bombarded with posts.

 
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