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 Posted:   Jan 29, 2015 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZF-yP_ceU

People can save your picture online, and get location data and Google Earth info from it.

Cushlamochree!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2015 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

OHHHHKAYYYYYY…

That's amazing and incredible and…spooky?
NAAAH!
As soon as the satellites began orbiting earth, I was expecting this.
I really don't care who knows where I live.
C'MON IN!

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2015 - 9:02 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Jesus fraking Christ! Why the hell would they make that a "built in" feature? Why don't they just put tracking devices on us and get it over with? Well in a way they do. Your shoes and clothing have GPS tags hidden in them already!

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 3:18 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

This is what concerns me.

On one hand, we're living in an age of complete inter-related exposure, everything's open, nobody cares about their own or anyone else's secrets, everything's forgiven, everyone's humble, everybody's free .... it's just like the Kingdom of Heaven, everyone's interrelated, no-one's alone, Puck encircles the globe, Hermes links us all.

But THAT ONLY WORKS IN A PERFECT WORLD ... did I say the Kingdom of Heaven?

On the other hand, there's something terrifyingly dangerous about all this: everyone being always accessible everywhere to everyone.

If you criticise this, as the poster above did, who bemoaned that this should not be the default setting, AND HE'S RIGHT, then you're a Luddite, a Jeremiah, a reactionary, regressive, a crank, a grump, a conspiracy theorist. But until very recently, young people in particular would have been the very FIRST to be concerned about the rights and abuses of this, and its dangers. Now they just smile naively.

What's annoying is that the tech people who design these systems, and the damned marketers just assume ARROGANTLY that everyone will of course be happy to expose their underwear drawer to the universe, why wouldn't they? Being boundariless themselves and perhaps with the unimaginativeness of the naively privileged, they assume everyone is like them ... pants down and freewheeling. You have to link Google, and Facebook, and Twitter, and the net, and Paypal and .... no-one sees the obvious dangers. And it's marketed in such a way that we're told it'll add to security! No matter what the algorithms, the passwords, the scramblers, the idea that all the targets are in one place AND THEREFORE SAFE, is just stupid.

Look at it this way: as a computer expert and scientist I know said recently, 'If it's illegal to do something, then someone has worked out that it can be done, otherwise why make it illegal?' You don't make invisibility cloaks or time machines illegal because they don't exist ... yet.

These geeks think narcissistically that because THEY enjoy fiddling about all day with computer settings, then the general punter who buys their wares will surely enjoy it too.

The shift has gone from safety to the default assumption that things are safe and everyone everywhere must surely want to be exposed to the world. It's actually insane.

All it'll take will be one Mr. Klaatu and the world will collapse.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

OHHHHKAYYYYYY…

That's amazing and incredible and…spooky?
NAAAH!
As soon as the satellites began orbiting earth, I was expecting this.
I really don't care who knows where I live.
C'MON IN!


Same here. This is not a worry for me. If someone wants to use images I've posted on facebook to find out where I am - BE MY GUEST! smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

OHHHHKAYYYYYY…

That's amazing and incredible and…spooky?
NAAAH!
As soon as the satellites began orbiting earth, I was expecting this.
I really don't care who knows where I live.
C'MON IN!


Same here. This is not a worry for me. If someone wants to use images I've posted on facebook to find out where I am - BE MY GUEST! smile


Thor, you really do not see the danger in all of this? What if you had children, took a picture of them in your house, then posted it online. Then some insane person saw your kids, found out exactly where they lived and came to your house to do who knows what? That doesn't even get into the social political dangers which we can't discuss. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

@ WILLIAMDMCCRUM - Very well said!

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Then some insane person ...... found out exactly where they lived and came to your house to do who knows what?



Now .... what am I doing next weekend? ...... I wonder if there are any bucket flights to Norway left ..... a strange plan is forming ....

No, I must resist ....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

OHHHHKAYYYYYY…

That's amazing and incredible and…spooky?
NAAAH!
As soon as the satellites began orbiting earth, I was expecting this.
I really don't care who knows where I live.
C'MON IN!


Same here. This is not a worry for me. If someone wants to use images I've posted on facebook to find out where I am - BE MY GUEST! smile


Thor, you really do not see the danger in all of this? What if you had children, took a picture of them in your house, then posted it online. Then some insane person saw your kids, found out exactly where they lived and came to your house to do who knows what? That doesn't even get into the social political dangers which we can't discuss. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

@ WILLIAMDMCCRUM - Very well said!


No, this doesn't worry me. I can't go around being paranoid like that in life.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

OHHHHKAYYYYYY…

That's amazing and incredible and…spooky?
NAAAH!
As soon as the satellites began orbiting earth, I was expecting this.
I really don't care who knows where I live.
C'MON IN!


Same here. This is not a worry for me. If someone wants to use images I've posted on facebook to find out where I am - BE MY GUEST! smile


Thor, you really do not see the danger in all of this? What if you had children, took a picture of them in your house, then posted it online. Then some insane person saw your kids, found out exactly where they lived and came to your house to do who knows what? That doesn't even get into the social political dangers which we can't discuss. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

@ WILLIAMDMCCRUM - Very well said!


No, this doesn't worry me. I can't go around being paranoid like that in life.


It has nothing to do with being paranoid. It's common sense...

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

There's one of the labels that keeps a record of purchases on account. Okay, that's fine - you don't want to type your name and address all over, do you? As one's address is a fixed abode, I was quite jarred to find a google maps option that when clicked, showed the location of the buyer.

Gives a whole new meaning to the "buyer beware" philosophy!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

OHHHHKAYYYYYY…

That's amazing and incredible and…spooky?
NAAAH!
As soon as the satellites began orbiting earth, I was expecting this.
I really don't care who knows where I live.
C'MON IN!


Same here. This is not a worry for me. If someone wants to use images I've posted on facebook to find out where I am - BE MY GUEST! smile


Thor, you really do not see the danger in all of this? What if you had children, took a picture of them in your house, then posted it online. Then some insane person saw your kids, found out exactly where they lived and came to your house to do who knows what? That doesn't even get into the social political dangers which we can't discuss. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

@ WILLIAMDMCCRUM - Very well said!



I can see why Thor has that point of view. Personally I do not care, why? Because there are so many people on Facebook, why target me. Think the needle in a haystack but instead of a haystack it is a stack of needles. So of all the needles why would anyone choose just that needle so to speak.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

The problem I have with this scenario is that if the photo service (of your phone or whatever device you use) doesn't specify the location info is incorporated into the file info, then it is worrisome and a breach of privacy. My latest cell phone I bought gave me the option to backup my data on a cloud service, free of charge. I am glad it didn't already have this activated from factory settings, but as a rule I keep any such link (or location access for other apps) inactive as much as possible.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

OHHHHKAYYYYYY…

That's amazing and incredible and…spooky?
NAAAH!
As soon as the satellites began orbiting earth, I was expecting this.
I really don't care who knows where I live.
C'MON IN!


Same here. This is not a worry for me. If someone wants to use images I've posted on facebook to find out where I am - BE MY GUEST! smile


Thor, you really do not see the danger in all of this? What if you had children, took a picture of them in your house, then posted it online. Then some insane person saw your kids, found out exactly where they lived and came to your house to do who knows what? That doesn't even get into the social political dangers which we can't discuss. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

@ WILLIAMDMCCRUM - Very well said!



I can see why Thor has that point of view. Personally I do not care, why? Because there are so many people on Facebook, why target me. Think the needle in a haystack but instead of a haystack it is a stack of needles. So of all the needles why would anyone choose just that needle so to speak.


Well better safe than sorry. But it's not for me to tell other ppl how to live their lives. The problem is the corporations making the decision for me and worse yet NOT telling me how they are sharing my private information.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)


I can see why Thor has that point of view. Personally I do not care, why? Because there are so many people on Facebook, why target me.


And yet it does happen to people. (Just not to you yet.)

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)


Same here. This is not a worry for me. If someone wants to use images I've posted on facebook to find out where I am - BE MY GUEST! smile


Aaah, youth! smile

As someone who doesn't look old enough to drink alcohol, Thor, it probably hasn't occurred to you yet that someone might target you, then come to your home and steal all your hair gel!

THEN you'd be more wary of things like this. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)


I can see why Thor has that point of view. Personally I do not care, why? Because there are so many people on Facebook, why target me.


And yet it does happen to people. (Just not to you yet.)


Well, if you are so frightened then I suggest you stop using internet at all, then maybe you can live your life without possible "threats" like this. In my mind it is so ridiculous.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)


Same here. This is not a worry for me. If someone wants to use images I've posted on facebook to find out where I am - BE MY GUEST! smile


Aaah, youth! smile

As someone who doesn't look old enough to drink alcohol, Thor, it probably hasn't occurred to you yet that someone might target you, then come to your home and steal all your hair gel!

THEN you'd be more wary of things like this. smile


He, he...bring it on, I say!

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


I can see why Thor has that point of view. Personally I do not care, why? Because there are so many people on Facebook, why target me.


And yet it does happen to people. (Just not to you yet.)


Well, if you are so frightened then I suggest you stop using internet at all, then maybe you can live your life without possible "threats" like this. In my mind it is so ridiculous.


Sorry if the rebuttals are calling others paranoid and ridiculous all I can say is live in ignorance. Just don't take us down with you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Ignorance is bliss!

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2015 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

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