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 Posted:   Jan 27, 2015 - 11:28 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

http://collider.com/the-fantastic-four-movie-details-josh-trank/

See pg 2 of the article

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2015 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

http://collider.com/the-fantastic-four-movie-details-josh-trank/

See pg 2 of the article



A collaborative arrangement, or just two artists contributing?

I was never able to suss that out with Manson/Beltrami on 'Resident Evil,' though I really enjoyed that whole score.

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

http://collider.com/the-fantastic-four-movie-details-josh-trank/

See pg 2 of the article



A collaborative arrangement, or just two artists contributing?

I was never able to suss that out with Manson/Beltrami on 'Resident Evil,' though I really enjoyed that whole score.


Resident Evil was more two artists contributing independently rather than a collaborative arrangement, much like Beltrami did with Joshua Homme for The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys. There was more of a collaborative arrangement of Beltrami and Kevin Manthei for RE in reality, with a more divisive approach to writing cues for Beltrami and Manson.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 3:55 AM   
 By:   Greg Phillips   (Member)

The specific section:

"TRANK: I got his manager’s number and gave them a call! Philip Glass is one of my heroes. Whenever I’m writing or drawing I always put on Philip Glass. This is my first time making a movie with a score and I thought, “why not give it a shot?” So I asked the studio, “what about Philip Glass? Would you guys be okay with me giving him a call?” And they were totally cool. He’s a really significant celebrity in the music world. I got his number from his manager, I sent him Chronicle and had a call with him. It was one of the coolest calls I’ve ever had in my life because he’s fucking Philip Glass and he had just watched my movie. The first words out of his mouth were, “I just saw your movie and it’s very philosophical.” We were talking about the philosophy of Chronicle and it gave me goosebumps. We invited him out to set and he came to set for like three days and had a great time. He was blown away by the scale of the film. I’ve been working with him for almost a year now and he’s so inspiring. He’s such a humble, amazing guy."

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

ok... so studio isn't probably very satisfied with what Glass has been doing and brought in Marco to provide an actual score?
they should have just fired him.

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

OK, now this film has my attention...until Mr. Glass or Mr. Beltrami come in and say something to the effect of the whole Micheal Mann/Terrence Malik style ["I did indeed get paid and deliver a score but little to none is on screen"].

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

And here's the trailer: http://io9.com/the-fantastic-four-trailer-is-here-and-its-not-at-all-1682005509


The whole thing looks like it's a mesh-up between Interstellar and something like Resident Evil, so I guess the composer duo seems fitting... :-/

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

ok... so studio isn't probably very satisfied with what Glass has been doing and brought in Marco to provide an actual score?
they should have just fired him.


Not sure what you're basing that on...there's no reason to believe at this point that the studio isn't satisfied with Glass' efforts, nor is there any way to know beyond mere speculation.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Speculation - true. But if Trank has worked with Glass for over a year and Beltrami is called in to work with him... it does not look as if Glass has delivered something studio-friendly.

That does not mean at all that Glass has not delivered something unique.

But one gets the feeling that the studio wants someone reliable to at least supervise if not change or rework or add something.

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Though it certainly wouldn't surprise me if a studio got frightened of a score that is distinguishable from their bland but surefire music recipe that has never failed them yet, it is absurd to read very much into a couple of sentences from an interview. Lokutus, this merits the statement "they should have just fired him"? Why the hostility?

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Oh, they'll probably get riud of him before the film opens. This film has reportedly had various kinds of troubles and the last thing they need is a good stand-out score -- they'll want to play it safe.


Every time he gets a score replaced, it's always one I was looking forward to. Damnit.

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Speculation - true. But if Trank has worked with Glass for over a year and Beltrami is called in to work with him... it does not look as if Glass has delivered something studio-friendly.
That does not mean at all that Glass has not delivered something unique.
But one gets the feeling that the studio wants someone reliable to at least supervise if not change or rework or add something.



Exactly. Why would they need another composer if Glass has been involved with the movie for a year and there would be no problems with his output?
Or perhaps it's just like Scream 2... who knows what Glass is actually doing on the movie - perhaps it's some sort of source music and that's why they needed him that early. And the actual score will be provided entirely by MB - fingers crossed that's the case, but until anyone confirms anything we won't know for sure.

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2015 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

Glass probably just sketched a theme in two minutes on a cocktail napkin when they wined-n'-dined him and cashed the check.

Considering Glass orchestrates himself (which takes time), and with this movie still having reshoots done just recently (and will doubtless be recut quite a bit, like most blockbusters, right up to the last minute before release), his work is probably just a theme or two, prerecorded.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2015 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   adamtrons   (Member)

I'm a person that likes themes and musical structure, so I'm hoping that Philip Glass is able to do the main body, if not all of the score. His soundtrack for “The Illusionist” still remains one of my favorites. “The Hours” is another memorable score. I also enjoy his etudes and concert works. On the other hand, if you asked me to recall a single Marco Beltrami theme, I cannot. Terminator 3, Hurt Locker, Live Free or Die Hard. I actually don't remember any of his music used in those films. I'm not saying he's a bad composer, I'm just saying that I don't care for his droning, unmelodic approach. But I get that some people are into that. I'm hoping that Glass will compose the score and maybe Beltrami will add the atmospheric or electronic elements. Something like that could make me happy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2015 - 8:57 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I wouldn't call Beltrami "unthematic," but I consider him one of the weaker of the many contemporary Hollywood composers who emerged in the 90s. With the exception of "I Am Dina" and the guitar-based love theme from the "Scream" films I honestly can't recall a single note from any of his scores - and I've seen a bunch of movies he's scored & over 15 or more years I have continually sampled cues from almost every score he turns out. I find him reasonably undistinguished, particularly for somebody who started in the 90s which for me was a fairly strong decade for film music (though not as good as the five decades that preceded it). John Ottman has a similar-looking filmography and I feel is a stronger composer, though not necessarily when scoring super hero movies (and he doesn't get as many high profile assignments as Beltrami). That said, if Glass and Beltrami are doing a true collaboration I'm very interested.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2015 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

Beltrami is a very fine composer. One of the only regularly employed Hollywood composers that's at all interesting, IMO. The Homesman was one of the best scores of last year, and Snowpiercer had some of the best action writing. He's not a titan like Glass, but no one in Hollywood is.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2015 - 9:12 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

I've always felt that Beltrami is weak on the melodic front but a very strong action composer.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I've always felt that Beltrami is weak on the melodic front but a very strong action composer.

Two words: SOUL SURFER.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 2:34 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I've heard cues I like, but overall I've yet to hear a whole score by the composer I can say I love or even want to own. And for the life of me, I can't recall a single theme from any score I've sampled yet.

I find the majority of the action material to be lacking serious meat and often sounds thin and falls back on bad habits sometimes.

Some people are really taken with him, I just can't hear what the big deal is. Ever new score these days is praised by a few people, and I hear it and I don't get it, even stop playing the music 'cause I'm bored senseless.


But, I'd still take him over Zimmer.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I've heard cues I like, but overall I've yet to hear a whole score by the composer I can say I love or even want to own. And for the life of me, I can't recall a single theme from any score I've sampled yet.

I find the majority of the action material to be lacking serious meat and often sounds thin and falls back on bad habits sometimes.

Some people are really taken with him, I just can't hear what the big deal is. Ever new score these days is praised by a few people, and I hear it and I don't get it, even stop playing the music 'cause I'm bored senseless.


But, I'd still take him over Zimmer.



Totally agree. Even the somewhat promising stuff falls flat and are forgettable. Same with Micheal Giacchino. I can enjoy some of his music while I play it but damn if I can remember a single cue. Great guy but the music is lacking and uninspiring. I don't think it's the composers, at least I hope not. It's what they are forced to write.

 
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