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 Posted:   Jan 24, 2015 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Finally we have RESURRECTION which I think is a hell of a lot of fun and GORGEOUS. Fuck me is this film beautiful and stylish.... but unfortunately dumb as rocks.

I'm kind of on the opposite spectrum when it comes to the style of Resurrection. Giving the Aliens more pointed chin looked extremely cartoonish, and wouldn't you know it? That's why they did it in the first place. Pointed Chin = Evil

But the biggest issue I had with the style was the choice of color. What better way to convey a quality production when everything is colored brown? The spaceship is brown, the costumes are brown and even the aliens are brown. The image of Ripley being surrounded by brown slimy alien matter and looking like she just got flushed didn't help matters either.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2015 - 12:41 AM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Finally we have RESURRECTION which I think is a hell of a lot of fun and GORGEOUS. Fuck me is this film beautiful and stylish.... but unfortunately dumb as rocks.

I'm kind of on the opposite spectrum when it comes to the style of Resurrection. Giving the Aliens more pointed chin looked extremely cartoonish, and wouldn't you know it? That's why they did it in the first place. Pointed Chin = Evil

But the biggest issue I had with the style was the choice of color. What better way to convey a quality production when everything is colored brown? The spaceship is brown, the costumes are brown and even the aliens are brown. The image of Ripley being surrounded by brown slimy alien matter and looking like she just got flushed didn't help matters either.


I actually feel the movie has a lot of striking color use, brown, blues, greens, and teal plus Jean Pierre Junet knows how to fill a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. I also feel that being the 4th in the series, the films really had no where to go and as such, this film went camp. One was gritty and a haunted house in space, two was Vietnam in space, three was All Hope is Lost, and Four to me was an ensemble alien film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2015 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Hey Bien -- nice to hear another positive voice for ALIEN 3!

But we obviously disagree quite a bit on RESSURECTION and especially PROMETHEUS, which I found absolutely fantastic!

Guess I'm the only one who likes ALL films in the series, although some more than others.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2015 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Guess I'm the only one who likes ALL films in the series, although some more than others.

Not quite! Count me in there too...I certainly like "Resurrection", just not as much as the others....it's Ok. ..perfectly watchable.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2015 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I missed this the other day - Den of Geek ranks all 7 movies....interesting!

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/alien/33766/alien-franchise-ranking-the-movies-in-order-of-quality

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2015 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I missed this the other day - Den of Geek ranks all 7 movies....interesting!

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/alien/33766/alien-franchise-ranking-the-movies-in-order-of-quality


I wonder why they'd include the AvP films but not the P films, round it out to 10. Because Predator is as damn-near perfect an example of its genre as Alien and Aliens are of theirs, I think, while both of the sequels are pretty stinky, for very different reasons.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2015 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- three was All Hope is Lost,

Correction. All Hope is Conveniently and Impractically Lost.

 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2015 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Just to add to thor and bj and a few others views about alien 3.

What element about this that struck me - not really mentioned yet - was the solid casting, and most of all, this one had humour - albeit black - that was missing from the first two.
Aside from great performances from Charles Dance, Brian Glover and especially Charles Dutton, the choice of Ralph Brown, Paul mcGann, Philip Davis and best of all, Pete Postlethwaite and Danny Webb was a stroke of genius from director and the casting director. Some of the dialogue and the repartee between the abandoned "space monks" is wicked.
That bit where they are being chased along the corridors by the alien and Pete Postlethwaite looks through the glass of his closed door and i paraphrase but says something like "Corridor seven...closed. ....i think!"
that was just fab.
However bleak the film was there was much to admire.
Personally i think these things often boil down to expectation. You have to watch them with a certain amount of Okay, wheres this gonna take me? - one of the worst things people can do is to get so absorbed in these things that they have a passion and expection of what should happen next. They liked the first one or two so they want more of the same, but in reality makers know that more of same would get repetitive. They have move the idea on or in a different direction.
Look at the Godfather series? 3 got panned in so many quarters it became accepted open season to slag it off.

No, alien 3 was, in a way a sad film and i felt a real sense of sadness as ripley makes her fall - it was a feeling of After all she went through, to end up like this? --- But for me it did not detract from the direction and style they had taken the series on, it was still great filmmaking.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

So, wot won? Alien?

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Add my voice to the small crowd who loves Alien 3. From the night I saw it first run, I was in love with this film. The bleak hopelessness of the story, the dark direction and the brilliant, lonely score, it was oppressive and depressing. It was different in tone from the two that came before, which took balls. The safe bet would have been to make Aliens 2, but instead they went in the opposite direction. The series always had visionary directors doing their thing. I love both versions of this movie.

Alien gets the #2 spot for me. Great, slow building horror with amazing unlikeable characters. Insanely great Goldsmith score. The directors cut is okay, I was just happy to see Dalla's cocoon sequence reinserted. That was a gut punch.

Aliens. Almost a tie with Alien, great action and fun, wonderful characters and, yup, grand score from Horner. The downside is the previously mentioned "Alien finale ramp up/redo." I lile both versions of this film, but wish Burke's death was inserted, even if it's a mirror take of Dallas' fate.

Alien Resurrection. Good jumping off point for a new direction they never took. It's fun, but all over the place. I liked it a lot when I saw it in theaters but it's not my go to now. Still, it's a decent film. I honestly like all of the 4 original Alien films a lot.

Prometheus is a fine sci-fi film, one of the best I saw that year and I wasn't expecting it to be all that great. It gets a special mention from me.

The AvP films: I sat down to watch the first, fell asleep and never went back...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   Reelsniper   (Member)

I'd choose it in sequence. Alien is the best (because it set the pace), Alien 2 next, but 4 first before 3, because 3 certainly wasn't that good.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

The AvP films: I sat down to watch the first, fell asleep and never went back...

I would suggest (but only suggest) it's worth trying again with those movies....neither are anywhere near the standard of any of the Alien or Predator movies, but in their own universe they are Ok. ...certainly the first is worth at least SOME attention....The second, well much less so....but it could have been a lot worse....and takes some time (pleasingly) to make the Aliens look good on screen, and also has the balls to do a kickass impregnation scene....

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Guess I'm a cliché because I like Alien the most followed very closely by Aliens. Over time I've come to appreciate more Aliens 3 but it is still number 3.

I remember feeling absolute repulsion during the last 20 minutes of Alien Resurrection. It had been a long time since I've seen this movie, so I sat down and watched it again. There is certainly LOT of non stop action. Ripley's, "Look, I'm a semi creature," wore thin after a while; other characters were unique. I don't mind getting scared. I love a scary movie, but I don't like feeling nauseated or repelled. When that beige hybrid creature emerges from the queen, its constant, shrill squeaking just grates, and the whole last part once again repelled me.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I love a scary movie, but I don't like feeling nauseated or repelled. When that beige hybrid creature emerges from the queen, its constant, shrill squeaking just grates, and the whole last part once again repelled me.

Wow! Its like you're reading my mind Joan. In fact, i'm still queasy when I think about those,scenes nearly 20 years hence.

Is,it just me, or does that entire flick have one of the sickliest colour schemes ever? (not unlike several Jeunet films come to think of it).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

First one, for sure.

Love Aliens, too, but--has anyone ever noticed that there is no way there were that many fucking Aliens, considering the number of colonists and marines? (Look at how many rounds of ammunition the guns went through in the corridor scenes.)

Dan

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Love Aliens, too, but--has anyone ever noticed that there is no way there were that many fucking Aliens, considering the number of colonists and marines? (Look at how many rounds of ammunition the guns went through in the corridor scenes.)

According to the film,

Ripley: They grab the colonists, they move them over there and they immobilize them to be hosts for more of these. Which would mean that there would have to be a lot of these parasites, right? One for each colonist. That's over a hundred at least.
Bishop: Yes, that follows.

I don't believe 100 aliens were killed. Despite the ensuing battle when the Marines are ambushed in the nest, we don't get any indication that an alien was gun downed until we hear one screech when we see Hicks shoot at one offscreen with his shotgun. A lot of rounds were fired, but there weren't that many hits. Same goes with the Sentry Guns. No way those suckers scored a kill with each round fired.

You could even argue that thanks to the sentry guns gunning down so many of them that it helped Ripley infiltrate the nest with relative ease. Not to mention that when Ripley and co head back to the processing station to rescue Newt, the remaining majority of aliens that were left (Outside of the ones who were guarding the Queen) were probably still scouring the colony complex.

Now if the sentry scenes still bother you, there's always the theatrical version.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2015 - 11:50 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Advise & Consent, I'm glad you agree with me. I just watched Alien Resurrection a few days ago. Not sure I felt the color scheme was weird, but the movie was strange. Some parts were okay. If I have to watch the last 20 minutes again, I'm grabbing a barf bag, and that's unusual for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2015 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I remember the shot where Ripley disappears in the barf, and the puppy face on the barf creature.

 
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