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But in the case of the YouTube versions, they are fan edits, not the official cues. How many releases is it going to take to just give people the music correctly?
This is only true of the film edit of “No Time for Caution” and “Quantifiable Connection.”
The “No Time for Caution” that appears in the film was edited and mixed by the filmmakers, not Zimmer (who actually bent over backwards to give his ungrateful fans the original cue). It is unreasonable to expect the film version of that particular piece.
The problem with “Quantifiable Connection” is a technical issue, it was incorrectly ripped from its source by whomever was responsible for the Paramount FYC website.
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But in the case of the YouTube versions, they are fan edits, not the official cues. How many releases is it going to take to just give people the music correctly?
This is only true of the film edit of “No Time for Caution” and “Quantifiable Connection.”
The “No Time for Caution” that appears in the film was edited and mixed by the filmmakers, not Zimmer (who actually bent over backwards to give his ungrateful fans the original cue). It is unreasonable to expect the film version of that particular piece.
The problem with “Quantifiable Connection” is a technical issue, it was incorrectly ripped from its source by whomever was responsible for the Paramount FYC website.
I know that, Swash. That's what I'm talking about. I assumed that is what he meant by the YouTube tracks, as those are the two cues we all liked.
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I know that, Swash. That's what I'm talking about. I assumed that is what he meant by the YouTube tracks, as those are the two cues we all liked.
But my point is that, outside of the technical glitch on “Quantifiable Connection,” — which is an error and was not anybody's intention — the music is presented “correctly” on the albums and at the FYC site. The film version of “No Time for Caution” only exists in the film mix, but Zimmer provided us with the original cue (which actually isn't as different from what appears in the film as everyone initially thought) when there was such a positive reaction to the sequence.
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But the FYC isn't an album, and the track isn't presented correctly on it anyway.
"Day One Dark" is released as a download-only exclusive with purchase of a ticket to the movie.
The initial release of the album, that many people downloaded when it leaked, was missing the cue everyone wanted, "No Time For Caution." No big deal, maybe it would be on the Deluxe Edition.
Digital Deluxe Edition comes out. The cue everyone wanted, "No Time For Caution" is still not included. Many believe this to be quite an oversight, as the scene the music was for was the clear highlight of the movie, and figure that this cue will be on the Lightbox version.
Zimmer hears the pleas and releases an *unmastered* version of the cue for download. It's added to the digital Deluxe Edition. People complain because it doesn't sound like the one in the movie, so they make their own fan mixes of it, a few of them to great success.
The FYC site goes up and everyone hears "Quantifiable Connection." It is riddled with glitches, but people say, at least we have these fan-made fixes/versions to tide us over, as it's got to be on the Lightbox version, whenever that actually comes out. What else is there to include?
The Lightbox version finally comes out. "Quantifiable Connection," now the cue everyone wants, is somehow not included, and the 35 minutes of extra music is mostly made up of alternate mixes and suites of cues we have already owned on the previous two editions. "No Time For Caution," the original "cue everyone wanted," is presented here in unmastered form, just like the original download. "Day One Dark" remains a digital exclusive.
I don't see how anyone can look at they way they released this score and think it wasn't a royal fuck up. They could have just released an album version, the 16 tracks, then made the lightbox the complete score, with the suites added to the end. This is not even to mention the delayed release of the HD versions, so that someone desperate to have "No Time For Caution" in lossless form (and with the whole album hopefully mastered properly to better match "No Time For Caution") would likely have purchased this album multiple times over the course of two months.
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I know that, Swash. That's what I'm talking about. I assumed that is what he meant by the YouTube tracks, as those are the two cues we all liked.
But my point is that, outside of the technical glitch on “Quantifiable Connection,” — which is an error and was not anybody's intention — the music is presented “correctly” on the albums and at the FYC site. The film version of “No Time for Caution” only exists in the film mix, but Zimmer provided us with the original cue (which actually isn't as different from what appears in the film as everyone initially thought) when there was such a positive reaction to the sequence.
As far as "correctly," having "No Time For Caution" go out unmastered makes it sound incorrect, tacked on (as it was, yes) and not in line with the rest of the score.
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The reaction to “Quantifiable Connection” came way after that for “No Time for Caution,” so it's understandable that the popularity of the track would not have been accounted for when preparing the Illuminated Star Flashy Box.
Zimmer prefers to re-arrange his music for listening when producing albums. This has been true since he started scoring films, and as infuriating as it may be for film music buffs like us, it is a legitimate perspective. In this case, there isn't as much cue-mixing and shuffling as is standard for his albums, and you can hear the entire score in the original delivered mixes on the FYC. Yes, the FYC is not an album, which is why it isn't what's in the Obnoxious Celestial Blinky Box.
As for “No Time for Caution” not being mastered, well, it is what it is, which was a last-minute push to get something out to fans who were clamoring for it. Then, after he delivered it on all platforms — including the Illuminati Light Brite Box, which required destroying the originally printed second discs at somebody's expense — everybody is still complaining that it wasn't what they wanted, even though what they wanted doesn't exist outside of the movie.
So all that's left is that “Quantifiable Connection” was damaged when uploaded to the FYC site (which is a shame, but not an intentional #$@% up), and “Day One Dark,” which I admit that I had forgotten about, and would be nice to have in lossless, but doesn't appear in the film as such.
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What are we even arguing about? I just want there to be one, maybe two releases, with all the music we would get if it were any other composer's score in these modern times. All these different staggered releases and mixes and FYC sites is just annoying.
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What are we even arguing about? I just want there to be one, maybe two releases, with all the music we would get if it were any other composer's score in these modern times. All these different staggered releases and mixes and FYC sites is just annoying.
This I completely agree with.
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Tron Legacy!!! :-/
Yeah. I'm going to just blame that one on Hans Zimmer, too.
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Tron Legacy!!! :-/
THAT was much, much worse than this situation… at least if you got the Aluminumificated Stella Doro Sparkly Box you technically have everything that was officially released except “Day One Dark.”
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I dunno, both seem equally frustrating - I'm still chasing both around various rabbit holes, and every time I think I've wrangled it all - another piece pops up. Is it fan made, Memorex, or the real megillah?
It's just what's in the Illtimed Infection Flickery Box and “Day One Dark.” That's it.
There's the FYC, but that's not an album, it's a hack.
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