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 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Make a list of 10 original soundtracks unreleased, of your choice (please, not re-recording)

So in your mind, re-recordings of the same music are worthless and should be ignored?

The Music is DEAD unless it's the original soundtrack recording?

Is that what your saying?

Ford A. Thaxton



Here goes Ford again making his unique interpretations of what someone else writes.

God Forbid, I point out his rather odd FANBOY logic...



The guy just put a simple disclaimer on his post. What's the BIG deal? You crack me up. "The Music is DEAD". What a reply. I know you are more knowledgeable than myself about film scores to be sure, however in my opinion-
Re-recordings suck


So we can put you in the camp that thinks the music is dead unless it's the soundtrack recording...

What a lovely way to live.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)


So we can put you in the camp that thinks the music is dead unless it's the soundtrack recording...

What a lovely way to live.

Ford A. Thaxton


What do you mean exactly? If an original soundtrack is unreleased, well it is unreleased, and a re-recording will change nothing about that.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Ten scores that I particularly like, that haven't been previously mentioned on this thread:

Bernstein/Storm Fear(1955)
Green/Alvarez Kelly(1966)
Raksin/Jubal(1956)
Schifrin/Blindfold(1966)
Schifrin/The President’s Analyst(1967)
Steiner/A Dispatch from Reuters(1940)
Steiner/Rocky Mountain(1950)
Steiner/Springfield Rifle(1952)
Waxman/Tortilla Flat(1948)
Young/Drumbeat(1954)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)


So we can put you in the camp that thinks the music is dead unless it's the soundtrack recording...

What a lovely way to live.

Ford A. Thaxton


What do you mean exactly? If an original soundtrack is unreleased, well it is unreleased, and a re-recording will change nothing about that.


Only if you think the only valid recording is the soundtrack recording.

I'm sorry as far as I'm concerned if someone goes back and does a new recording of the score, that means it's not UNRELEASED as far as I'm concerned.

All that tells me is that some folks only care about the soundtrack recording vastly more then the MUSIC itself.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, I have to echo what Ford says here. I've never cared if a soundtrack contains the original recording or not; what matters is only the music and that we have some sort of (preferably good) representation of it. But even if you MUST have the original at all costs, a score is NOT unreleased if it has a soundtrack album.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I think I have ran out of 'grails', but would still like to see these released:

Spiderman 3 (Christopher Young)
The Box (Win Butler, Régine Chassagne & Owen Pallett)
Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (Ken Harrison)
The Ninth Configuration (Barry Devorzon)
Child's Play 2 (Graeme Revell)
Under the Mountain (Bernie Allen)
G.I. Joe (Robert Walsh & Johnny Douglas)
The Walking Dead (Bear McCreary)
The Black Cat (Pino Donaggio)
Blood Work (Lennie Niehaus)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)


So we can put you in the camp that thinks the music is dead unless it's the soundtrack recording...

What a lovely way to live.

Ford A. Thaxton


What do you mean exactly? If an original soundtrack is unreleased, well it is unreleased, and a re-recording will change nothing about that.


Only if you think the only valid recording is the soundtrack recording.

I'm sorry as far as I'm concerned if someone goes back and does a new recording of the score, that means it's not UNRELEASED as far as I'm concerned.

All that tells me is that some folks only care about the soundtrack recording vastly more then the MUSIC itself.

The late Mr. Goldsmith had it right....It's just about collecting bottom caps to these folks.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)



The late Mr. Goldsmith had it right....It's just about collecting bottom caps to these folks.


Ford A. Thaxton


Good heavens, now people collect bottom caps!? Well, in this tacky age of omnipresent tattoos, body piercing, and low riding pants, I guess *anything* goes! ;-)

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2015 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Let's turn down the heat a bit.

This thread is about unreleased original soundtracks, by which the author apparently means the original soundtrack recording as heard in the film. So we seem to be confusing the more technical meaning of "original soundtrack recording" with the "original score" of a film in whatever form - original or re-recording, at the time or many years later.

If the original soundtrack has never been released apart from the film, it's perfectly legitimate to call it unreleased. And if what one wants to hear is the original recording apart from the film, it's equally legitimate to focus on these recordings.

Whether individuals love or loathe re-recordings, there is no harm at all in people wanting to focus on an original recording they would like to hear apart from the film.

Not all threads have to be about every version available or released of a particular score. And there can be very good reasons why someone wants to hear the original soundtrack version of the recording, so that doesn't mean it has to be about mindless collecting.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2015 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)



Only if you think the only valid recording is the soundtrack recording.



See post above.

Original soundtrack = original soundtrack
soundtrack = original soundtrack and re-recordings

I'm a fan of Spaghetti westerns. Recently some people produced those albums billed as "original soundtrack", with a lot of deception, since they were in fact re-recordings. Re-recording these albums is pretty much like re-recording Elvis albums, a completely different thing, and I'm simply not interested.

Now I'm a fan of classical music, and obviously I prefer recent, good sounding recordings. I'm perfectly fine with new recordings of some works.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2015 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I know what you mean, slint, but we've used the term 'original soundtrack' for ages now, for any given album from a film, whether it's original or rerecording. John Williams' album rerecordings, for example, all have 'original soundtrack' as part of their tagline -- right there on the cover.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2015 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

If a re-recording is done with expert care it is the best possible (and available) version of the composer´s work.

See BSX´ "Blade Runner" or Tadlow´s "QBVII".

I would therefore strike them off this 10 unreleased soundtracks-list.

Unreleased scores I would like to have - as original soundtrack or re-recording:

1. MOONLIGHTING (tv series)
2. FAMILY BUSINESS
3. REMINGTON STEELE (tv series)
4. THE TALL GUY
5. THE JEWEL OF THE NILE

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2015 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I notice that the O.P. hasn't been back since starting the thread in January, so we don't know - nor should it bother us - why he wants a list of 10 unreleased original soundtracks (no re-recordings). I don't imagine that his intention was to start a flame war, or even to have his request dissected as a matter of semantics. There have been plenty of re-recordings debates over the years, and he could have chipped in on any of those if he chose.

You see I played safe in my list! Five Mellés and five Kirchins never released in any format. Here's another I'd love - Schifrin's THE MANITOU.

Why has nobody ever thought of starting a "Holy Grails" thread?

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Ah, my mistake. C.F. did mention back in January that he generally doesn't like re-recordings. I'm still not going to hate him for it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2015 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

1. Helen of Troy (Max Steiner)
2. A Woman's Vengeance (Miklos Rozsa)
3. The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Alfred Newman)
4. The Conqueror (Victor Young)
5. Kings of the Sun (Elmer Bernstein)
6. Tarzan and the Mermaids (Dimitri Tiomkin)
7. Resurrection (Maurice Jarre)
8. The Good Earth (Herbert Stothart)
9. Juarez (Erich Wolfgang Korngold)
10. The Macomber Affair (Miklos Rozsa)

Your list has the most soundtracks I would love to see released. We are definitely on the same wavelength.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2015 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

Some on my wantlist have been released on LPs. But for 500$ as a typical price in mint condition, they are only "technically" released in my opinion.

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2015 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   scottthompson   (Member)

1. RAISE THE TITANIC (Film Tracks) (Barry)
2. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (Complete Film Tracks) (Friedhofer)
3. THE RARE BREED (Williams)
4. AIRPORT (Film Tracks) (Newman)
5. TO FLY (IMAX Film) (Bernardo Segall)
6. THE SALAMANDER (Film Tracks) (Goldsmith)
7. HURRY SUNDOWN (Montenegro)
8. THE REINCARNATION OF PETER PROUD (Goldsmith)
9. SHADOW ON THE LAND (TV Film) (Sol Kaplan)
10. HAWAII FIVE-0 Box Set (Stevens, Broughton, Ray, etc.)

SCOTT

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2015 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

One on the top of my head...

Updated!

Creator (1985)
Gung Ho
Legal Eagles
My Bodyguard
Banjo The Woodpile Cat (animated short)
Space Ace & Dragons Lair (Video games)

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2015 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

1. Batman and Robin (Elliot Goldenthal)
2. Her (Arcade Fire)
3. Police Academy 2,3,4,5,6 (Robert Folk)
4. The Milagro Beanfeld War (Dave Grusin)
5. The High and the Mighty (Dimitri Tiomkin)
6. Spiderman 3 (Christopher Young)
7. Gremlins 2 the new batch complete (Jerry Goldsmith)
8. The Preacher's Wife (Hans Zimmer)
9. The Odd Couple (Neal Hefti)
10. Thoroughly Modern Millie (Elmer Bernstein)

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2015 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

Make a list of 10 original soundtracks unreleased, of your choice (please, not re-recording)

So in your mind, re-recordings of the same music are worthless and should be ignored?

The Music is DEAD unless it's the original soundtrack recording?

Is that what your saying?

Ford A. Thaxton


Here goes Ford again making his unique interpretations of what someone else writes.
The guy just put a simple disclaimer on his post. What's the BIG deal? You crack me up. "The Music is DEAD". What a reply. I know you are more knowledgeable than myself about film scores to be sure, however in my opinion-
Re-recordings suck! Another genre of music for sure, but I would never buy Prince redoing Purple Rain LP in 2015 or The Rolling Stones: Exile on Main Street being redone in say 1990. For myself- not you Ford- non-original recordings hold no interest for me. A bit akin to my lifelong disdain for the 12" remix version of some killer song. Not the original- not what the artist intended. No Sale.

Let the verbal thrashing begin!


Here is the thing. When I read the original post I did not presume it meant anything derogatory toward re-recordings -- merely that the intent of the discussion was to focus on unreleased ORIGINAL film recordings. So the motives were frankly irrelevant. Just choose to play or don't.

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2015 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

Will Penny - David Raksin
Chisum - Dominic Frontiere
The Train Robbers - Dominic Frontiere
Nevada Smith - Alfred Newman
The Hallelujah Trail - Elmer Bernstein
Animal House - Elmer Bernstein
Make Mine Music - Disney
Melody Time - Disney
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad - Disney
The Three Caballeros - Disney
Saludos Amigos - Disney
Robin Hood - Disney
The Sword in the Stone - Disney

 
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