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 Posted:   Dec 23, 2014 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

I imagine Predator 2 happened because people kept harping on it here.

And what makes them re-release something? Why pick Fedora, for example?

 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2014 - 9:04 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Because their Encore of Rozsa's Eye of the Needle was the fastest sellout of its batch? A better question would be why they made so few copies or why they didn't expand it!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2014 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

Why pick Fedora, for example?

Because Varese owns the album rights, the last release was back in 1989, and many people love the score and Rózsa?

 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2014 - 9:18 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Because their Encore of Rozsa's Eye of the Needle was the fastest sellout of its batch? A better question would be why they made so few copies or why they didn't expand it!

Yavar



Er..you mean Rozsa`s FEDORA from the latest batch not EYE OF THE NEEDLE?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2014 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

I imagine there are numerous factors involved in such decisions, but I fear the real reason we don't yet have a Rocky box set is because I want it too badly.

 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2014 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

A lot of it is probably due simply to what survives, and if the studios will allow it (due to licensing fees, actor likenesses having to be approved, ect.). I often find myself wondering if the Paul Williams vocal on Secret Of NIMH may not be the reason why a Jerry Goldsmith score from his early 80's prime has yet to be expanded.

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 12:22 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

The answers are myriad, and complex. What exists, what they can get the rights to (this in itself can be very convoluted), what it will cost them, how many they think they can sell, and on and on.

But one big factor is passion. Just as we have holy grails we hope will see the light of day, so do the people at each of the labels have projects and composers they'll work tirelessly to release, even if they don't necessarily make a lot of business sense.

I don't want to over-romanticize it. I've spoken with several producers who have admitted quite candidly that a certain release of their own is "terrible," but was easily acquired, inexpensive to produce, and had a following.

By and large, though, it's some confluence of availability, viability, passion, and just random dumb luck that one CD is announced this week and another is not.

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 1:42 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)



That is one expensive 8-ball.

Judging by the last couple of years, I'd say the labels have a good understanding of what to put out that fans want. That includes what to reissue that fans missed out on and what to expand, etc. There will always be naysayers and complaints from people regarding what gets released, but I always find them to be the loud minority. And which customers do you want to base your business around? Those who only want a handful of (impossible) titles as they already own everything? Or those who are looking to expand and upgrade their soundtrack collection? How can you complain a score you like is getting expanded or remastered? I never understood this.

I don't mind when producers do their dream projects, that has resulted in some fine releases. To the label's credit, if they have put out what they consider a stinker of a release, it doesn't show in the quality and care they put into them. And at the end of the day they are soundtrack producers, they have little to do with the music itself, I personally care more how a composer regards his or her score than a soundtrack producer, no offense.

Speaking for myself, this year has been another amazing year of experiencing releases such as Falling Down, Naked Gun, Adams Family, Dead Ringers, Predator 2, Batman TAS v3, Young Sherlock Holmes, City of the Living Dead, ... all diverse enough and worthy of a purchase! Some day one, others later on as the only downside to this passion is the ever increasing shipping. In that regard I do thank the labels for some of their promotions and wish them a merry Christmas! smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

The one fairly important factor is also who are the licensors willing to work with.

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)



That's hilarious!

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


Er..you mean Rozsa`s FEDORA from the latest batch not EYE OF THE NEEDLE?


No. He asked why Varese decided to (re)release Fedora, and I surmised that they knew it would be successful because their similar Encore of Eye of the Needle was the fastest selling title of its batch! Of course that ended up being true of Fedora as well, but since Varese can't know the future (just sometimes predict it accurately) Fedora's actual sales can't be the reason for releasing Fedora.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I often find myself wondering if the Paul Williams vocal on Secret Of NIMH may not be the reason why a Jerry Goldsmith score from his early 80's prime has yet to be expanded.

That's been my suspicion for some time. Paul Williams was unhappy his version of the song wasn't actually used in the film, and I believe prevented the distribution of the single to radio stations.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

Some maybe giving this message board way too much credit. Varese, unlike the other labels, has always acted somewhat aloof of fans. I don't think Robert Townson gives a rat's ass what people on this board think.
Not every piece of music ever written for film can be released in multi cd units with liner notes the size of War and Peace. For $10.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

I often find myself wondering if the Paul Williams vocal on Secret Of NIMH may not be the reason why a Jerry Goldsmith score from his early 80's prime has yet to be expanded.

That's been my suspicion for some time. Paul Williams was unhappy his version of the song wasn't actually used in the film, and I believe prevented the distribution of the single to radio stations.


This is interesting. As president of ASCAP I wonder how much power he could have in such matters.

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I often find myself wondering if the Paul Williams vocal on Secret Of NIMH may not be the reason why a Jerry Goldsmith score from his early 80's prime has yet to be expanded.

That's been my suspicion for some time. Paul Williams was unhappy his version of the song wasn't actually used in the film, and I believe prevented the distribution of the single to radio stations.


This is interesting. As president of ASCAP I wonder how much power he could have in such matters.


The only thing I can find, and is not exactly what I recall says that "allegedly a dispute with Williams caused the song to never be released on sheet music." But I seem to remember more details as I stated above.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

The boutique labels are in regular contact with your therapists.

Merry Christmas!

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2014 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

The cat is OUT of the bag as to how label's find their titles...


 
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