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 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I just got the 2 Disc DVD at BIG LOTS. Never saw this on initial release or on DVD.

Wondering if Wolfgang wanted James Horner to score the picture? They teamed on PERFECT STORM and ultimately TROY. Wonder if he would have asked Jerry Goldsmith if he was alive at the time.

I about to watch it for the first time. I loved the original THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE back in 1972 with all the 60's and 70's stars of Hollywood jam packing it. Loved Williams score.

For those who have seen it, what are you thoughts on film and Klaus Bedelt's score?

How do you compare it with the Original? I guess Dreyfuss finally got his "bigger boat!"

Thanks,

Zoob

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Don't recall the source but I did read that Horner was not asked to do Poseidon and was upset after all he went through for Petersen during the Troy situation.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Horner needs to stop being upset about the industry and focus his energy into positive things. smile

The Petersen POSEIDON is a pretty good 'romp' of a film that is entertaining throughout. I'm a sucker for disaster movies, so I may be more forgiving than others.

The original POSEIDON is obviously a classic in the genre and loved by me, even though it's not very popular in my community of 'cineastes' to like such a thing. It's usually considered rather clunky genre fare. But I couldn't care less. The Williams score, however, I've always found disappointing (outside a cue or two).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

Horner needs to stop being upset about the industry and focus his energy into positive things. smile

I always appreciate his candor. We have more than enough people kissing ass and telling us how wonderful all of their collaborators and bosses have been even though deep down inside they know that some of them are inept and/or genuine pieces of shit. This of course is not a specific commentary on Wolfgang Petersen in particular.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Horner needs to stop being upset about the industry and focus his energy into positive things. smile

I always appreciate his candor. We have more than enough people kissing ass and telling us how wonderful all of their collaborators and bosses have been even though deep down inside they know that some of them are inept and/or genuine pieces of shit..


Oh, I agree. It's one of the features I love about Horner, even if I sometimes disagree with what he says (the Malick/NEW WORLD comments, for example). I'm just worried that it will drain him of creative energy or otherwise keep him from getting projects. I'm too big a fan of his music for that.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Horner needs to stop being upset about the industry and focus his energy into positive things. smile

I always appreciate his candor. We have more than enough people kissing ass and telling us how wonderful all of their collaborators and bosses have been even though deep down inside they know that some of them are inept and/or genuine pieces of shit..


Oh, I agree. It's one of the features I love about Horner, even if I sometimes disagree with what he says (the Malick/NEW WORLD comments, for example). I'm just worried that it will drain him of creative energy or otherwise keep him from getting projects. I'm too big a fan of his music for that.


IMO The New World would have been a bit better by utilizing more of Horner's score vs the classical pieces used. The notes on the cd 'Soundtrack' portrays a compeer extremely frustrated by the process. Of course based upon Malick's habit of ditching original score in favor of classical pieces he should not have been surprised.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

Horner needs to stop being upset about the industry and focus his energy into positive things. smile

I always appreciate his candor. We have more than enough people kissing ass and telling us how wonderful all of their collaborators and bosses have been even though deep down inside they know that some of them are inept and/or genuine pieces of shit. This of course is not a specific commentary on Wolfgang Petersen in particular.


Horner has really changed priorities over the years. He claimed he never considered writing for film and that he'd never do anything else. Now he's cutting back on film work and going back to the concert world. Modern classical is something he claimed nobody listens to. So I think he's just at a point in his life where he can't be bothered to take whatever comes along.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

My take on the movie and score.

****SPOILERS, SO DON'T LOOK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THINGS****


How convenient for those perfectly inflated and pristine life rafts to be waiting for our survivors. Wow, that was nifty.

Dreyfuss played a believable gay man with an earring that just got dumped.

Sad that the latino kitchen help guy had to eat it. He was the big hero for me.

Loved it when Lucky Larry got his. Kevin Dillon still playing the same asshole for 30 years.

Kurt Russell is always good in a bad situation and likable. Sorry he had to eat it.

Josh Lucas did a good Matthew McConnaughey performance. Those guys are pretty swappable. Matthew has a little more flair though.

I remember Jacinta Barret from THE REAL WORLD.

The little boy was borderline obnoxious. But he could sure hold his breath a long time.

The score was pretty much what Klaus and Hans do all the time. Beat, not much melody.

Horner would have at least written a beautiful Love Theme for Emmy Rossum and her boyfriend. Probably another take of "The Wedding" from DEEP IMPACT that showed up again in BICENTENNIAL MAN.

I enjoyed Fergie strutting around during her song, but it was no "Morning After".

Andre Braugher was wasted.

The Captain saying "Do you feel that? Something's not right" seemed stupid. Wouldn't their radar have picked up an approaching rogue wave?

Liked the TOWERING INFERNO looking elevators, definitely a homage to Irwin Allen.

All in all it was mildly entertaining and engaging. Worth about $3.00 for the 2 DVD set I got at Big Lots.

No need to remake the original but they did a good job.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2014 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

For those who have seen it, what are you thoughts on film and Klaus Bedelt's score?

How do you compare it with the Original?


As far as comparisons with the original go, Poseidon has much more music although it's around 20 minutes shorter. Unfortunately Badelt's score is no match for Williams's (the ONE time Petersen keeps a score instead of throwing it out...). Then again, how weak is the movie? Even Beyond The Poseidon Adventure is better, that's how weak.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2014 - 2:30 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

IMO The New World would have been a bit better by utilizing more of Horner's score vs the classical pieces used. The notes on the cd 'Soundtrack' portrays a compeer extremely frustrated by the process. Of course based upon Malick's habit of ditching original score in favor of classical pieces he should not have been surprised.

I disagree. Malick thinks 'alternatively' in his filmmaking while Horner has always been very Hollywood-minded in approach. He simply didn't GET Malick's approach (evident from his rather outlandish comment that this could have been a great love story a la TITANIC). So no wonder they clashed. Still, I think his score works wonderfully in the film, alongside the classical pieces.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2014 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I see director Wolfgang Petersen hasn't made a film since Poseidon, maybe he's retired, he's getting on a bit. Shame to go out on two duds like Troy & Poseidon. I have the long version of Das Boot on my TV planner, I'll try & watch that before Christmas.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2014 - 2:55 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

According to Wikipedia, he's working on a live action version of the classic animé film PAPRIKA, as well as a science fiction project called OLD MAN'S WAR. No news have arisen about PAPRIKA since 2010, so it could be stranded or on indefinite hold.

OLD MAN'S WAR, however, seems to have developped into a project for the SyFy channel, according to a Hollywood Reporter article from August this year:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/syfy-adapting-futuristic-military-drama-723323

It only says that Petersen will oversee the production. It says nothing about whether or not he will actually direct.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2014 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Horner needs to stop being upset about the industry and focus his energy into positive things. smile


With two concert pieces, a more picky and less blockbustery approach to gigs and an IMAX documentary, I think he just does that. smile

Added: indeed, I like his candor. Provides insight in what we from the outside of the business just observing.

 
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