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 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

OK I know this was already posted, but it was inside a thread about James Fitzpatrick's upcoming re-recording of Obsession for Tadlow on Prometheus Records. Rather than clutter up that thread, here's a separate thread to discuss the new Music Box Records release.

Music Box Records revealed it via posting this image to their Facebook page on November 3rd



https://www.facebook.com/MusicBoxRec/photos/a.176201732422480.34925.143265539049433/801779413198039/?type=1&theater

Nothing else has been mentioned by them about it that I've seen.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Praying that it's the complete score and that the sound quality is up to snuff.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Brandon Brown   (Member)

Looking forward to hearing it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   thx99   (Member)

Sent them an email inquiry and received the following response:

"Thank you for your message and your interest about our coming release.
We will make an official detailed announcement about OBSESSION later this year..."

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

Wow, that is very nice of them to post a picture and basically say, "Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah!"

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

It says right there that it's coming out in two months. What's the big deal, Kim? Oh wait, everything is always a big deal.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Wow, that is very nice of them to post a picture and basically say, "Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah!"

...Hey Hey (Kiss him goodbye)?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

Good idea to give the reported Music Box release its own thread. I look forward to hearing details about this recording.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   Jerry Horne   (Member)

Oh boy!

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 10:48 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Wow, that is very nice of them to post a picture and basically say, "Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah!"

You mean like movie posters say "Ha ha, we've seen this and you haven't!"? And car ads say "Look what we get to drive! In your face!"?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 11:05 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

If they have found everything in Stereo, awesome.

If not, that's fine too...

However, the downside is more then likely MUSIC BOX will more then likely have only have CD rights and won't be able to make the recording available on ITUNES or other digital outlets.

The Tadlow recording will have the benefit of being able to record everything that was written for the film and do a modern recording that I suspect will allow us to hear some details that might be buried in the original mix.

It's also possible that Mr. Fitzpatrick will also record something else to go with it as well.

Since TADLOW will own the recording they will be able to make it available digitally to a much wider audience on ITUNES and other digital outlets then the CD only release.

I'll be picking up the Tadlow CD without question allow with the Music Box release as well.

I'm sure everyone posting will wish them the best and consider picking up their recording as well.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Music Box has a damn fine record, at least as far as the releases of theirs I have, so I'm confident that at least the LP program will be presented in fine sound, even if the expansions may not be in the best of condition. But that's all speculation.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

The use of the word "archival" would seem to indicate that there are some issues with the source they are using. Not that I'm complaining, I'm sure they'll do the best job they can. Just food for thought for those who do have issues with more problematic sources and sound quality. I'll certainly be getting this and the Tadlow.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

First off, just getting a new release of the LP tracks is probably justification enough for this release. But yes, I would guess the special "archival edition" of the score probably indicates that any new tracks are maybe less than optimal quality. I wonder if this has something to do with why it's taken so long for Obsession to come out from a label?

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

As most of us have lived with the LD rip of the whole thing for so long, if that's all this is, who cares, sign me up!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

First off, just getting a new release of the LP tracks is probably justification enough for this release. But yes, I would guess the special "archival edition" of the score probably indicates that any new tracks are maybe less than optimal quality. I wonder if this has something to do with why it's taken so long for Obsession to come out from a label?

Chris.


Exact thing I've been thinking! It was either a rights issue or tapes issue, and I'm sure if its
the tapes, MBR have been taking extra care & time to do the best humanly possible.

I do hope that when all this plays out there is a bit of backstory as to 'what happened'.
This is one of THE most
oft-requested scores, and I never saw any word from any label to indicate "wha hoppen?".

One of those ugly ducklings no one wanted to touch....I would think the labels would have been
tripping over each other to issue this masterpiece.

- Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

Absolutely agree, Goblin.

This great score has always been treated like a bastard child, in terms of CD distribution. The first release (Varese's Masters of Film Music), a reboot of the 38 minute LP, was only available as a Canadian mail order item. This was at a time when many large CD stores maintained soundtrack sections. Sadly, the Varese release never appeared in those retail shops.

The 38 minute edit was quietly reissued for the Unicorn WELLES RAISE KANE set. That particular CD was stocked in retail stores, but usually in the classical music sections (at least in my neck of the woods). Patrons who only shopped soundtrack sections probably missed it. Recent reports have claimed that some of the old Unicorn CDs are no longer performing well.

Later, there was a boot on the "Reference" label which may have been accessed from the Pioneer laserdisc audio isolation track. The missing 25 minutes of music were of lesser quality than the standard 38 minutes. It was only available from mail order sources, and one had to know where to look for it.

My conclusion is that this superb score has never been afforded the respect it deserves, at least not on CD. I honestly expected to see it appear during the otherwise wonderful Herrmann centenary a couple of years ago, but it didn't surface even then. So, I had finally given up hope of ever seeing the score released on a superior quality CD.

Now, however, we have the great news that the complete score is being rerecorded by a master score preservationist, while simultaneously a highly respected soundtrack label will be reissuing some form of the original tracks. Bravo to both Tadlow and Music Box Records! This has been a long time coming.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

You are quite right about the Unicorn hush hush reissue of Obsession, John....
I've had two copies, the first bronzed all to hell, and I was lucky to be able to
replace it. I'm afraid to look at my copies of the Symphony & Moby Dick at this point,
it's been awhile since I've heard them!

A great time all around for this score, very happy for this good news.

- Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

You are quite right about the Unicorn hush hush reissue of Obsession, John....
I've had two copies, the first bronzed all to hell, and I was lucky to be able to
replace it. I'm afraid to look at my copies of the Symphony & Moby Dick at this point,
it's been awhile since I've heard them!

A great time all around for this score, very happy for this good news.

- Sean


I haven't looked at my copy of the Welles Raises Kane disc in a few years so I don't know if it has gone bad, but I seem to remember that even when the disc was new the sound level was much lower than other discs and I had to turn it up quite a bit to hear it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2014 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I am really looking forward to this CD. I'm sure it will be better than the Reference RFO-001 CD, which had level fluctuations amongst the tracks and had quite a bit of hiss on the previously unissued cues.

This is truly Herrmann's greatest effort of the 1970s. I am so glad the original recording of this score will finally be released in its complete form, presumably in really nice sound. Kudos to Music Box, and shame on the other labels who never bothered to pull this off.

I also look forward to the Tadlow re-recording, which I'm sure will shed new light upon this great score.

 
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