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 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

The original release is 55 minutes, more than enough.

Why is that necessarily "more than enough"? If there's stuff missing then for most people who actually like the score then it's probably 'nor enough'. Yeesh

(And FWIW I am not one of those people but what reason would I have to complain about it?)


I'm not complaining. I'm giving my opinion, which I'm allowed to do in this democratic community that is the FSM Board. Not every comment has to be of the sycophantic, naval contemplating, fan boy nature.

In my opinion of course, just to make clear.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


I'm glad we have a healthy mix of old and new scores being released, and love when anyone gets to hear more of a score that speaks to them.


HEAR, HEAR!!

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

The original release is 55 minutes, more than enough.

In your opinion.



This release certainly isn't a surprise -- it was bound to happen. The Passion is one of the highest sellind regular commercial score released of all time. Just in a few months it had sold over 500,000 copies, and over time well over a million. I thought I read one time nine million, but that seems unlikely. It was just a question of the current rightys holder wanting to part with it with such sales, but maybe sales had dwindled and those cookies smelled good. Who knows.


Hopefully this will open up a window to released the rejected scores, one by Lisa Gerrard & Patrick Cassidy, and the other by Jack Lenz (Lenz put up about 36 minutes of his on his now gone old website; thankfully I saved it all).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

I'm only surprised this will be 10,000. They must be fairly confident it will sell a lot.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

You maybe have a point there, I find it somewhat strange however that there are these expanded releases of relatively recent scores that were well served by the original version ... I suppose people must be crying out for such things and La La Land will continue to issue them.

There are a lot of reasons why a label might produce a title beyond people crying out for such things:

- The composer wants to do it and has a relationship with the label. If the label wants to continue working with the composer and the release is feasible, it makes sense to foster that relationship.

- The studio wants to do it and has a relationship with the label. If the label wants to continue working with the studio and the release is feasible, it makes sense to foster that relationship.

- It's a personal favorite score of the label. If they have the resources, why not?

- A relatively recent, high profile score with an existing album release is more likely to have a wider market than a premiere release of an old score -- something like, say, D.A.R.Y.L. (an old favorite of mine) -- and strong sales of the wider market titles make the premiere releases of the old scores possible.

For PASSION it might be a case of all four. I expect it will be a huge seller for LLL. Regardless of any individual's feelings about this score, we'll all benefit from the other releases it will make possible.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)


For PASSION it might be a case of all four. I expect it will be a huge seller for LLL. Regardless of any individual's feelings about this score, we'll all benefit from the other releases it will make possible.


Exactly. I would be deluding myself if I thought that any of the 60s and 70s premieres that I really want would sell even half as well as Passion. It is unfortunate that what I like most is not more in demand, but that's just the current state of the market.

No hand-wringing on my part; it is simply the truth.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Neilbucket   (Member)

For the love of God, why?!!

We had a thread once and not one person mentioned this score, which is "apparently" crying out for an 'expanded' release...

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=86473&forumID=1&archive=0


This is why you aren't "merely putting the question out there." Your response is couched in rudeness. And this post in particular (as well as the evidence from your subsequent posts) is why SchiffyM's comment:

"Do you believe that every single release should be for you? For the love of God, the egocentrism is stunning."

is absolutely on point. Your entire presence in this thread has been to profess incredulity that a score that this score, a score that you "don't care for..."

Your core thought, though, isn't the issue (it's okay to genuinely wonder if there is enough demand for a score,) it is your approach and the petulance accompanies your posts. It's unnecessary.

And if you feel those posts that run counter to how you feel are of a "sycophantic, naval contemplating, fan boy nature," then you have missed the essence of civil discourse. There are posts in this thread that aren't pining over this score - those posts, sir, are how you engage in mature dialogue.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Neilbucket   (Member)

Double post.

I guess I'll add that I've made my point about rudeness having no place here (I just get so tired of it.) That's the last of it (as I won't need to have the last word if I am responded to.)

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Oh well. Occasionally I like to let rip...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

If you have any questions please ask away

MV


Is this a part of the black Friday releases?


It is one of them

It's a very special release that appeals to people beyond the film score community. We need to spread the good word, so to speak, thus the reason why we are announcing this particular title early.

MV


Given the 10,000 unit count, I'm delighted at the potential of this title beyond Scoreland. In an ideal world, it will sell out (bringing in $ for other releases) and could open interests to demagraphics who might not otherwise be introduced to, which again, could broaden the market as FSM said their Star Trek soundtracks did.

I wish well for you on this and what might follow. :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)


Now if we can only convince Sony to let us do TITANIC at some point....

MV


Funny, my first thought exactly, before reading this.

MAYBE... if Passion does prove well, you have something to show the higher ups. :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Now if we can only convince Sony to let us do TITANIC at some point....

But it's only seventeen years old!


We got three years for our magic cookies to work on them

wink

MV


Only three?

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Does it come with an autographed whip?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

I'm with you as far as interest level goes - I bought the OST used for cheap, and I didn't particularly care for it. However, I'm not sure what the "10 year old" thing means - are younger scores instantly less interesting than older scores? Would this score be more interesting to you if it were the same score, but 20 years old - maybe it ages like wine? There are plenty of scores that are 1, 2, 3 years old that I want more music from, and plenty of scores that are 30+ years old that I'm happy with just the OST - but I wouldn't begrudge others if they wanted complete versions of those either wink

You maybe have a point there, I find it somewhat strange however that there are these expanded releases of relatively recent scores that were well served by the original version. 'Superman Returns' is another example. I suppose people must be crying out for such things and La La Land will continue to issue them.

And yes, in this particular case I don't care for the score.


Do you still have a Holy Grail list? (weird, no pun intended, but on second thought...LOL) If so, imagine there was a film from just a year ago that was missing music from the album. Passion does nothing for me musically as well, but I respect the Passion (pun intended) others feel for a particular score, so I'm happy this release is making others happy.

Also, I see this release as an opportunity for expanded markets. As the guys from various labels have said over the years, "It's about forming relationships" getting the business parties to come together and make available albums we'd never have seen a decade ago.

If this release has the potential to enlighten other demographics, I'm delighted and excited that this could be a gateway to expanding the market, so the love for film music could expand even farthur.

Look how far we've come in a mere decade and I'm hopeful for more if more people see reason for it.

Time and time again, stories account one fan favorite score being made available based on a previous composer/label/studio relationship.
Look beyond a mere subjective experience. :-)

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Mr Hand   (Member)

Are royalties going to Integrity Music when this release is purchased?

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   Theodore Baker   (Member)

If you have any questions please ask away

MV


Thank you LLL for this surprise!! smile smile

Can you please MV post the track-list if it possible, of course?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 8:05 PM   
 By:   dwirving68@gmail.com   (Member)

Are royalties going to Integrity Music when this release is purchased?

Integrity has nothing to do with this release.

 
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