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I know hindsight is 20/20 but the first attempt was dreadful and more importantly sounds nothing like the rest of the score. (as noted in the article)
Though my memory is playing tricks. I could have sworn the swelling of music was timed with the shot of the binary stars, not when we cut back to Luke. Musically it seems off now.
Why would it be tied to the twin suns?
The scene is about what Luke is feeling, not "gee, look, two suns!" That's just a bonus. So of course the music swells when we see Luke.
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Nerd alert.
Just dug out my DVD of the original 1977 cut (http://amzn.to/1rvytE5). Music swells immediately when we cut back to Luke's face after seeing the twin suns.
I can't tell you what it might look like in the "special" editions because I refuse to acknowledge that they exist.
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I know hindsight is 20/20 but the first attempt was dreadful and more importantly sounds nothing like the rest of the score. (as noted in the article)
Though my memory is playing tricks. I could have sworn the swelling of music was timed with the shot of the binary stars, not when we cut back to Luke. Musically it seems off now.
Why would it be tied to the twin suns?
The scene is about what Luke is feeling, not "gee, look, two suns!" That's just a bonus. So of course the music swells when we see Luke.
I don't think it works in retrospect. The shot of the binary stars represents the longing and it's where the music should have swelled. Not back on Luke looking bored. IMHO of course. 
That's the difference between the George Lucas of 1977 and the George Lucas in the modern era. Now the swell of the orchestra WOULD be on the suns, not the face of the actor.
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Nerd alert.
Just dug out my DVD of the original 1977 cut (http://amzn.to/1rvytE5). Music swells immediately when we cut back to Luke's face after seeing the twin suns.
I can't tell you what it might look like in the "special" editions because I refuse to acknowledge that they exist.
That scene is thankfully untouched - identical to the original in all ninety different editions.
Actually, the mountain in the close up shot of the suns has been removed in the SE and I believe some clouds were added as well. Other than, it is untouched. Aside from heavy grain removal and color alternations.
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The sooner "Star Wars" comes out on Blu-Ray—the real one—the better.
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The sooner "Star Wars" comes out on Blu-Ray—the real one—the better.
Amen.
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The thing is, the movie stops right there to show you this. You could cut the binary sunset out of the film, it wouldn't effect the story at all, and the movie would just be 30 seconds shorter… but infinitely poorer, because it is at this section of the film that the narrative focus shifts from the droids to Luke, and stays there for rest of the film (and trilogy), and it is with this quiet, introspective moment alone with himself that the audience truly gets to identify with him.
I kind of see what Williams was going for in the original version, but the cue that appears in the film has become so iconic that it just feels wrong.
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I know hindsight is 20/20 but the first attempt was dreadful and more importantly sounds nothing like the rest of the score. (as noted in the article)
Though my memory is playing tricks. I could have sworn the swelling of music was timed with the shot of the binary stars, not when we cut back to Luke. Musically it seems off now.
Why would it be tied to the twin suns?
The scene is about what Luke is feeling, not "gee, look, two suns!" That's just a bonus. So of course the music swells when we see Luke.
I don't think it works in retrospect. The shot of the binary stars represents the longing and it's where the music should have swelled. Not back on Luke looking bored. IMHO of course.
That's the difference between the George Lucas of 1977 and the George Lucas in the modern era. Now the swell of the orchestra WOULD be on the suns, not the face of the actor.
Whoooooooooooa there, fellas. Lets back it up a bit.
First off, historically speaking, Star Wars has been edited and re-edited several times before it even went to VHS. Early mono mixes of the film had Luke saying "Blast it Biggs, where are you?" during the Death Star attack which was later looped out in an ADR session to be "Blast it Wedge, where are you?". The film also didn't have the subtitle "Episode IV" until later prints of the film hit theaters.
The series has been tinkered and tampered with for its whole existence - ever notice they looped in part of the score for ESB into the Millennium Falcon's attack on the Main Reactor in ROTJ? - and it only became blatant with the Special Editions. But they're all true to form in that they're all editing nightmares.
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Pretty sure my Story of Star Wars LP still had the "Blast it, Biggs" line.
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