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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2014 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

He really doesn't have anything better to do?

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni57772919/?ref_=hm_nw_tp_t5

I guess I don't either by taking the time to share this. John Williams is turning over in his grave and he's not even gone yet, thank God!

http://extension765.com/sdr/18-raiders

We need more OCEAN'S Movies. NOT!!! Where did they leave off at 13?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2014 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

agreed, a waste of his energy

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2014 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

Actually, I kind of like the idea of turning Raiders into a silent film, but if you're going to do it push the concept all the way, with carefully designed intertitles for the dialogue and an orchestral score in the style written for silent films (or perhaps a Wurlitzer organ treatment of the Williams score), rather than that distracting noise Soderbergh is using.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2014 - 11:35 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Kinda sounds like a score for a Super Mario Bros. Game.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2014 - 11:48 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

Wow! I couldn't even make it through 5 minutes of that, How irritating.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2014 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I love this concept, and I'm totally with what Soderbergh is trying to do!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2014 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I get what Soderbergh is trying to do and what he wants the viewer to take away, but just watching the film as is - with color and sound - one can see how skillfully it is shot and how well it was staged. But it may be that younger movie makers and fans are too used to the current ADD shaky cam movies making and NEED a more extreme example...?

But it sure DOES look amazing in black and white.

Did anyone watch his Heaven's Gate cut?

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2014 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

The most interesting and most telling part of this is that Soderbergh doesn't give us the intent of the experiment.

What is he trying to prove by removing the color?
What is the point of putting in that music?

Much like proper navigation, I cannot tell you where he is going with this if he ain't telling me where he's coming from.

All this comes off like a first year college student who is overly sure of his self-worth and that he is somehow more clever than his teachers. Snore.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2014 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The most interesting and most telling part of this is that Soderbergh doesn't give us the intent of the experiment.

What is he trying to prove by removing the color?
What is the point of putting in that music.


Doesn't he explain that fairly well in the introductory remarks?

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2014 - 12:30 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

The most interesting and most telling part of this is that Soderbergh doesn't give us the intent of the experiment.

What is he trying to prove by removing the color?
What is the point of putting in that music?


Since we're dealing with the elephant in the room, Lehah, I know you are smart enough to actually click the link and see what Mr. Soderbergh has done here. It's not hard. And there you will find he actually prefaces the film stream with his intentions:

"(Note: This posting is for educational purposes only.)

I’m assuming the phrase “staging” came out of the theatre world, but it’s equally at home (and useful) in the movie world, since the term (roughly defined) refers to how all the various elements of a given scene or piece are aligned, arranged, and coordinated. In movies the role of editing adds something unique: the opportunity to extend and/or expand a visual (or narrative) idea to the limits of one’s imagination—a crazy idea that works today is tomorrow’s normal.

I value the ability to stage something well because when it’s done well its pleasures are huge, and most people don’t do it well, which indicates it must not be easy to master (it’s frightening how many opportunities there are to do something wrong in a sequence or a group of scenes. Minefields EVERYWHERE. Fincher said it: there’s potentially a hundred different ways to shoot something but at the end of the day there’s really only two, and one of them is wrong). Of course understanding story, character, and performance are crucial to directing well, but I operate under the theory a movie should work with the sound off, and under that theory, staging becomes paramount (the adjective, not the studio. although their logo DOES appear on the front of this…).

So I want you to watch this movie and think only about staging, how the shots are built and laid out, what the rules of movement are, what the cutting patterns are. See if you can reproduce the thought process that resulted in these choices by asking yourself: why was each shot—whether short or long—held for that exact length of time and placed in that order? Sounds like fun, right? It actually is. To me. Oh, and I’ve removed all sound and color from the film, apart from a score designed to aid you in your quest to just study the visual staging aspect. Wait, WHAT? HOW COULD YOU DO THIS? Well, I’m not saying I’m like, ALLOWED to do this, I’m just saying this is what I do when I try to learn about staging, and this filmmaker forgot more about staging by the time he made his first feature than I know to this day (for example, no matter how fast the cuts come, you always know exactly where you are—that’s high level visual math shit).

At some point you will say to yourself or someone THIS LOOKS AMAZING IN BLACK AND WHITE and it’s because Douglas Slocombe shot THE LAVENDER HILL MOB and the THE SERVANT and his stark, high-contrast lighting style was eye-popping regardless of medium."

 
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