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 Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Since the U.K. actor Stanley Baker passed away in 1976, enough time has elapsed (38 years) so threads of this type shouldn't be misconstrued as being in bad taste by U.K. FSMers such as Doug Raynes or Tall Guy.

Also, Stanley Baker died before the late-1970s growth of cinema visual effects so there are no well-known/popular blockbusters from which to choose in the titles posted below:

  • CAPTAIN HORATIO HORNBLOWER R.N. (1951) by Robert Farnon
  • HOME TO DANGER (1951) by Malcolm Arnold
  • THE CRUEL SEA (1953) by Alan Rawsthorne
  • KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE (1953) by Miklós Rózsa
  • THE RED BERET (1953) by John Addison
  • HELL BELOW ZERO (1954) by Clifton Parker
  • BEAUTIFUL STRANGER (1954) by Malcolm Arnold
  • THE GOOD DIE YOUNG (1954) by Georges Auric
  • RICHARD III (1955) by William Walton
  • HELEN OF TROY (1956) by Max Steiner
  • ALEXANDER THE GREAT (1956) by Mario Nascimbene
  • CHILD IN THE HOUSE (1956) by Mario Nascimbene
  • A HILL IN KOREA (1956) by Malcolm Arnold
  • CHECKPOINT (1956) by Bruce Montgomery
  • HELL DRIVERS (1957) by Dr. Hubert Clifford
  • CAMPBELL'S KINGDOM (1957) by Clifton Parker
  • VIOLENT PLAYGROUND (1958) by Philip Green
  • THE ANGRY HILLS (1959) by Richard Rodney Bennett
  • BLIND DATE (1959) by Richard Rodney Bennett (aka CHANCE MEETING)
  • HELL IS A CITY (1960) by Stanley Black
  • THE CRIMINAL (1960) by John Dankworth (aka CONCRETE JUNGLE)
  • THE GUNS OF NAVARONE (1961) by Dimitri Tiomkin
  • EVA (1962) by Michel Legrand
  • SODOM AND GOMORRAH (1962) by Miklós Rózsa
  • ZULU (1964) by John Barry
  • SANDS OF THE KALAHARI (1965) by John Dankworth
  • ACCIDENT (1967) by John Dankworth
  • ROBBERY (1967) by Johnny Keating
  • LA RAGAZZA CON LA PISTOLA (1968) by Peppino Di Luca (aka THE GIRL WITH THE PISTOL)
  • WHERE'S JACK? (1969) by Elmer Bernstein
  • THE LAST GRENADE (1970) by John Dankworth
  • THE GAMES (1970) by Francis Lai
  • PERFECT FRIDAY (1970) by John Dankworth
  • UNA LUCERTOLA CON LA PELLE DI DONNA (1971) by Ennio Morricone (aka A LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN)
  • INNOCENT BYSTANDERS (1972) by Johnny Keating
  • ZORRO (1975) by Guido & Maurizio De Angelis
  • PEPITA JIMéNEZ (1975) by Stelvio Cipriani


    My favorties include A LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN, BLIND DATE, EVA and SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

    Any other faves out there?

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     Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 4:21 PM   
     By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

    Three out of that lot:

    Knights Of The Round Table
    Helen Of Troy
    Where's Jack?

    Considering it's 1953, the FSM Knights Of The Round Table sounds really good. I have the two-disc boot of Helen Of Troy, doesn't sound so good, & mono, but I can't see anything better coming along. Where's Jack? is one of the many LP's that I'd like a CD release of.

     
     Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 4:29 PM   
     By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

    OK, there are some very obvious choices here - the two Rozsa scored movies, Zulu, Navarone - but putting those aside, I can say I am fond of Farnon's CAPTAIN HORATIO HORNBLOWER, Keating's ROBBERY and especially Bernstein's WHERE'S JACK.

     
     Posted:   Sep 17, 2014 - 4:38 PM   
     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

    Yeh zulu and navarone are standout scores. Altho i nevr liked g and m deangelis stuff usually, i ownd the zorro L.p and i loved it. some decent contenders there but Robbery was another favourite.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 5:34 AM   
     By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

    Too soon! Too soon!

    (Seriously, I don't recall doing any of the complaining about tribute threads, but Tone Row implies that I did, and Tone Row is an honourable man...)


    Zulu and Guns of Navarone are my favourites from this list as well. They're also the only two that I saw in the cinema - both in the early 1970s, in the days when films were re-run.

    TG

     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 5:56 AM   
     By:   ToneRow   (Member)

    Too soon! Too soon!

    (Seriously, I don't recall doing any of the complaining about tribute threads, but Tone Row implies that I did, and Tone Row is an honourable man...)


    Not so much about tribute threads, TG, but upon posting on recent deaths (in my thread on Richard LaSalle I update dates of death on composers born during the '20s).

    so 1976 is still too soon? wink

     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 5:58 AM   
     By:   ToneRow   (Member)

    Altho i nevr liked g and m deangelis stuff usually, i ownd the zorro L.p and i loved it.

    This is interesting.

    The Digitmovies CD on ZORRO sold out rather rapidly - so there's around 500 people in the world who bought it but none of them are posting here! smile

     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 6:00 AM   
     By:   ToneRow   (Member)

    Zulu and Guns of Navarone are my favourites from this list as well. They're also the only two that I saw in the cinema - both in the early 1970s, in the days when films were re-run.


    Is ZULU a favourite because it's by John Barry? Or do you think Barry's ZULU music is truly 'better' than all the other scores?

    And since you are a Morricone fan, why isn't LIZARD a fave of yours?

    (by the way. the whistling heard in Morricone's LIZARD soundtrack is based on Stanley Baker's policeman character whistling whilst investigating during the movie).

     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 6:03 AM   
     By:   ToneRow   (Member)

    No fans of Joseph Losey films?

     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 6:11 AM   
     By:   ToneRow   (Member)

    I think the 1957 HELL DRIVERS is an excellent film of its kind.

    The cast in HELL DRIVERS is a who's who of '60s television: William Hartnell (the 1st Doctor), Patrick McGoohan, David McCallum ... and there's Sean Connery, too!


     
     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 6:23 AM   
     By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

    Too soon! Too soon!

    (Seriously, I don't recall doing any of the complaining about tribute threads, but Tone Row implies that I did, and Tone Row is an honourable man...)


    Not so much about tribute threads, TG, but upon posting on recent deaths (in my thread on Richard LaSalle I update dates of death on composers born during the '20s).

    so 1976 is still too soon? wink



    Ah - yes, now I remember! I think the composers themselves cease to care what's being said about them at (or even just before) the point of expiration, but the surviving octa - or nonagenarians may have been discomfited that they were being counted down!

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 6:26 AM   
     By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


    Is ZULU a favourite because it's by John Barry? Or do you think Barry's ZULU music is truly 'better' than all the other scores?



    Favourite is one thing, better is another.

    Although my favourites are usually the best.

     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 4:01 PM   
     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

    Thats funny coz R minus w's favourites are usually the best too.

    Love hell drivers film tone, just dont rate score as high as zulu, navarone n robbery, who are faves bcoz they are the best.
    I woulda picked lizard but i tend to give non morricone scores a bump as otherwise im biased.

     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 4:29 PM   
     By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

    OK, there are some very obvious choices here - the two Rozsa scored movies, Zulu, Navarone - but putting those aside, I can say I am fond of Farnon's CAPTAIN HORATIO HORNBLOWER, Keating's ROBBERY and especially Bernstein's WHERE'S JACK.

    I love Hornblower and its score.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 18, 2014 - 4:33 PM   
     By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

    Thats funny coz R minus w's favourites are usually the best too.

    Love hell drivers film tone, just dont rate score as high as zulu, navarone n robbery, who are faves bcoz they are the best.
    I woulda picked lizard but i tend to give non morricone scores a bump as otherwise im biased.


    I love Hell Drivers. I has such a great cast. Patrick McGoohan as Red, the baddie, Sean Connery & Herbert Lom, the lovely husky voiced Peggy Cummins, & a lot of other faces. I also love it as my dad was a lorry driver, & he drove an old tipper truck like the ones in the film. I can't remember the music.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 2:01 PM   
     By:   Timmer   (Member)

    Yes, McGoohan has got a real dangerously simmering edge to him in Helldrivers. It isn't hard to see why he was considered for Bond, I think he'd have been good.

     
     Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 2:28 PM   
     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

    He was a far greater talent than ever really got recognised. Prisoner was the one where he really had some lattitude to excel. Got occasional meaty-ish roles here and there - like ice station zebra - but not the film career and status he deserved.

     
     Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 2:28 PM   
     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

    Taking of talent, as was Stanley Baker. Never seen him in a bad role.
    What was the film where he plays a crim who does robbery with Laurence Harvey? was it concrete jungle? No, The Good die young great little thriller. Had to look it up.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 21, 2014 - 3:39 PM   
     By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

    Zulu and Guns of Navarone are my favourites from this list as well. They're also the only two that I saw in the cinema - both in the early 1970s, in the days when films were re-run.


    Is ZULU a favourite because it's by John Barry? Or do you think Barry's ZULU music is truly 'better' than all the other scores?

    And since you are a Morricone fan, why isn't LIZARD a fave of yours?

    (by the way. the whistling heard in Morricone's LIZARD soundtrack is based on Stanley Baker's policeman character whistling whilst investigating during the movie).


    I have to thank you, Tone. I knew I'd heard at least one track from LIZARD but hadn't ever explored the whole thing. I finally remembered to look it up on youtube and give it a proper spin. I'm not over keen on the device of an erotic-sounding female voice taking the melody line, and might have preferred an obomaboe or something similar, and perhaps this had prejudiced me against hunting out the rest of the score. However, I can overlook the choice of instrumentation when the score is as good as this. Some great frenetic giallo jazz writing and dark dissonance.

    And the whistling theme is familiar from some compilation or another, and actually IS a favourite track, so you caught me out.

    I wish formally to add LIZARD to my list of favourite scores from a Stanley Baker film. Although it couldn't be more different to ZULU or GUNS if it tried.

    TG

     
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