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Intrada presents complete score, including three brief source cues written by Bernstein, all in dynamic stereo from newly-discovered original two-track session masters mixed by Richard Lewzey at CTS Studios in London, courtesy Columbia Pictures.
A lot of us collectors have been under the impression that the master recording tapes done at C.T.S. were lost/dumped/trashed, etc. except for the Jerry Fielding sessions which were saved by folks such as James Fitzpatrick.
I'm curious why Columbia Pictures had Elmer's SEE NO EVIL?
Typically, the recordings done in England were sent to U.S.A. studios if LP soundtrack albums were planned (e.g. Dusan Radic's GENGHIS KHAN and Frank Cordell's CROMWELL).
There was never any LP on SEE NO EVIL, so the newly-discovered masters might imply that there may have been plans for a soundtrack in 1971. Can anybody shed additional light on this?
I can shed light that Columbia did not have the tapes.
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Sep 17, 2014 - 4:41 PM
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serifiot
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After reading Roger's comments posted above in Justin Boggan's response regarding 'THE OTHER' scores, my immediate question was how come Previn's and Whitaker's scores were destroyed and not Bernstein's in this... so called infamous fire I've heard mentioned before.
In any case, I found this interesting info pasted below from this site... it's #119 and click INFO.
A bit of a story spoiler... sorry.
I don't know, maybe there is some iota of hope in seeing one of the two, or even both rejected scores released.
I believe!
http://rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/list.html#LaLaLove
See No Evil
Composers: Andre Previn, David Whitaker
Score Details (for Previn):
Orchestra: London Symphony Orchestra.
Newspaper Article Someone Posted at FSM; did not name paper:
Friday, June 11, 1971
Mia Farrow Movie Loses An Andre Previn Score
LONDON (AP) - The words of actress Mia Farrow, starring in a new thriller movie, will not be accompanied by the note of her orchestral conductor husband Andre Previn after all His music score has been scrapped.
Columbia Pictures, distributors of the film called "See No Evil," ran a blue pencil through Previn's score after hearing a recording by the London symphony Orchestra with the composer conducting.
American composer Elmer Bernstein is writing new background music, which is due to be recorded next month.
Associate producer Basil Appleby said Tuesday: "It is all very embarrassing. I had to tell Previn the concensus was that they didn't like his score. It's a Columbia Pictures decision. They weren't very specific about why they didn't like it."
The film, directed by Richard Fleischer and originally called "Buff," depicts Miss Farrow in her first British screen role. She plays a blind girl unwittingly involved in a mass murder.
Appleby said Previn had been asked to rewrite his score, "but unfortunately I spoke to him the day before he was flyng to Moscow with the orchestra."
Found At haineshisway.com:
"Today, Randall Larson, former editor of Soundtrack Magazine, as well as former editor of CinemaScore (a much-loved early film music magazine) responded:
Paraphrasing from Musique Fantastique, page 307:
Andre Previn did indeed compose and record an original score to SEE NO EVIL. It was reportedly recorded by the London Symphony, for whom he was then-resident conductor. But the producers rejected the music and hired David Whitaker, whose work evidently didn't satisfy them either, and Bernstein was hired.
"According to Previn, writing in FilmFacts, the producers had felt his music was 'too harsh, too astringent, too ugly, too rough, and there isn't anything the kids can whistle.'
"Mark Stevens, writing in the original 'Score' column for Cinefantastique, heard Previn's score and described it as 'a superbly chilling score, PSYCHO-like, with electronic overtones, a synthesizer being employed to stunning effect.' It's too bad the recording of this score hasn't been made available -- nor Bernstein's more romantic approach either, for that matter. A great topic for a new FSM or Intrada or Percepto or La-La Land combo soundtrack with both scores, hmmm???
Last Updated: October 24, 2009
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Sep 18, 2014 - 1:00 PM
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filmusicnow
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After reading Roger's comments posted above in Justin Boggan's response regarding 'THE OTHER' scores, my immediate question was how come Previn's and Whitaker's scores were destroyed and not Bernstein's in this... so called infamous fire I've heard mentioned before.
In any case, I found this interesting info pasted below from this site... it's #119 and click INFO.
A bit of a story spoiler... sorry.
I don't know, maybe there is some iota of hope in seeing one of the two, or even both rejected scores released.
I believe!
http://rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/list.html#LaLaLove
See No Evil
Composers: Andre Previn, David Whitaker
Score Details (for Previn):
Orchestra: London Symphony Orchestra.
Newspaper Article Someone Posted at FSM; did not name paper:
Friday, June 11, 1971
Mia Farrow Movie Loses An Andre Previn Score
LONDON (AP) - The words of actress Mia Farrow, starring in a new thriller movie, will not be accompanied by the note of her orchestral conductor husband Andre Previn after all His music score has been scrapped.
Columbia Pictures, distributors of the film called "See No Evil," ran a blue pencil through Previn's score after hearing a recording by the London symphony Orchestra with the composer conducting.
American composer Elmer Bernstein is writing new background music, which is due to be recorded next month.
Associate producer Basil Appleby said Tuesday: "It is all very embarrassing. I had to tell Previn the concensus was that they didn't like his score. It's a Columbia Pictures decision. They weren't very specific about why they didn't like it."
The film, directed by Richard Fleischer and originally called "Buff," depicts Miss Farrow in her first British screen role. She plays a blind girl unwittingly involved in a mass murder.
Appleby said Previn had been asked to rewrite his score, "but unfortunately I spoke to him the day before he was flyng to Moscow with the orchestra."
Found At haineshisway.com:
"Today, Randall Larson, former editor of Soundtrack Magazine, as well as former editor of CinemaScore (a much-loved early film music magazine) responded:
Paraphrasing from Musique Fantastique, page 307:
Andre Previn did indeed compose and record an original score to SEE NO EVIL. It was reportedly recorded by the London Symphony, for whom he was then-resident conductor. But the producers rejected the music and hired David Whitaker, whose work evidently didn't satisfy them either, and Bernstein was hired.
"According to Previn, writing in FilmFacts, the producers had felt his music was 'too harsh, too astringent, too ugly, too rough, and there isn't anything the kids can whistle.'
"Mark Stevens, writing in the original 'Score' column for Cinefantastique, heard Previn's score and described it as 'a superbly chilling score, PSYCHO-like, with electronic overtones, a synthesizer being employed to stunning effect.' It's too bad the recording of this score hasn't been made available -- nor Bernstein's more romantic approach either, for that matter. A great topic for a new FSM or Intrada or Percepto or La-La Land combo soundtrack with both scores, hmmm???
Last Updated: October 24, 2009
"There's isn't anything that the kids can't whistle". It proves that these tineared movie executives would sell out to a younger audience with a bunch of dumb songs rather than an original score.
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You know, I never noticed till now that the cue titles on the back cover of the CD differ greatly from the track list on Intrada's blurb for the release of the album. For instance, track 14 "Idyll" becomes "Dandy Star".
(Incidentally, there's an excellent, SYNTHESIZED version of this lovely tune on Youtube) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctjMc4c-sb8
Romantic, and, yes, autumnal! And the original orchestral version sounds even better. Highly recommended CD.
JMM.
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Bump. Last chance, folks...
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P.S. Also known as BLIND TERROR for those interested in watching the film.
well done Seriflot. I saw See No Evil and thought whats that film?
Yeh im sure Blind Terror was what it was called in the UK.
Clemens wrote some good gritty stuff, quite a bit of The Sweeney,, and including the groundbreaking Sat night Thriller series.
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A very good Elmer Bernstein score and Intrada release. It's sad to see it going again after being unavailable for so long. It's well worth purchasing.
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Once before I splurged on a horror score for a film I had never seen based purely off the samples—Les Baxter's House of Usher—and that turned into an instant favorite for me. We'll see if lightning strikes twice when See No Evil arrives, because those samples sound great!
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I managed to snag a used copy of this. It is a truly amazing score, one of Elmer's best despite its brevity. Exciting percussive passages are a highlight, as is one of the most gorgeous love themes he ever wrote. If you don't have this score, get it!
Yavar
P.S. It is odd about almost all the track titles having different names in Roger's post vs. those listed on the back cover itself...
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Jan 18, 2024 - 5:16 PM
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GoblinScore
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Watching this film for the first time, and pulling a "Gurdy" (Cheers, mate!).
Film is free for 2 more weeks on tubi.
It's so over the top, I love it!! I thought Elmer was fired here, and hearing the "Elmer Bernstein Show" feel in the first few cues (so far), I'm shocked they went with his score. Glad, but shocked. Were Previn & Whitaker's efforts ever heard anywhere, repurposed maybe?
Mia Farrow is the most unconvincing blind person in film history.
Seems like a potboiler 15mins in.
I loved this one upon hearing this Intrada cd, but dang shoo, its loud, brazen & mixed for US here in this community.
Bernstein is missed. Every now & again I run one of his pictures have a volley of his albums. He really was one of the greats.
-Sean
Haha, saw I already lauded this one above. Definitely an album to hear versus (20mins in) the film experience.
The horse riding cue 45min in is great! Western tyme.
Film isn't that bad after all....so far. As long as Farrow has no humans in eyeliner, we're good.
20mins left and it's a actually a well mounted suspense piece after all.
Very sparsely and well spotted.
Yuck. A precursor to film aesthetic now. No ending, it was just a crazy guy, woooo!!!
Nice to see Lila Kaye freed from The Slaughtered Lamb.....and again, useless.
Play the album, skip the film.
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