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 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Does anybody know were there ever designs for the extinct race of super beings, the Krell, that originally populated Altair IV in "Forbidden Planet"?

I revisited the movie again recently on Blu-ray, on my new 60" TV, and my imagination started going. My own theory is the invisible creature caught in the neutron beams earlier in the film, attacking the space ship, was a relic of the Krell, as Morbius explains; but that is not what the Krell looked like in their final evolved state. We only have those large, pyramidal doors in the passage to the Krell lab indicating a suggestion of their considerable height and lateral bulk, and Morpheus' observation, also in the lab, that the Krell were likely multi-limbed. But I was curious if anyone -- either during the production, or a talented fan in the years since the film was made -- has created illustrations of the Krell in their heyday.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

A couple from a quick search on google.





I know . . . very 50s!

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

A couple from a quick search

Thanks, Grecchus. I saw those, and I was going to mention them in my post above, but I edited it to remove spoilers. Without going into details, for anyone who has not seen the film, the illustrations you linked were early production designs for the creature that Morpheus summons to the Krell lab (that's why one painting includes a likeness of Walter Pidgeon) -- these are not Krell in their evolved state; they are Krell Ids.

I just checked "Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials" and was surprised he did not take a stab at them.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I keep coming up with with Anne Francis and Robbie the robot in searches. Whenever I think of Emergency Override Archimedes all I see is a rubber duck.

Maybe the Krell should have a sense of the aquatic?

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Based on Barlowe's Guide, I vote for a cross between an Ixtl and a Dextran. Quack quack!

Charles Thaxton are you out there?

Edit: found Some amateur renderings:

http://dragnboi65.deviantart.com/art/Krell-Concepts-426632400
http://jandruff.deviantart.com/art/The-Krell-Labs-53894493

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

For what it's worth, in the movie when Walter Pidgeon is showing the Krell facilty to Leslie Nielsen, et al., he mentions that the facility's low but wide doors correspond to the Krell's shape/size.

On the Blu-ray's special features, there's lot of info on the making of the movie, but I've never seen any studio artist's concepts for the Krell, so they maybe the producers never intended to show the Krell at all.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

For what it's worth, in the movie when Walter Pidgeon is showing the Krell facilty to Leslie Nielsen, et al., he mentions that the facility's low but wide doors correspond to the Krell's shape/size.

On the Blu-ray's special features, there's lot of info on the making of the movie, but I've never seen any studio artist's concepts for the Krell, so they maybe the producers never intended to show the Krell at all.


And thank Gods. Some things are best left as a mystery.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

I agree, Solium. There have been attempts to remake the film and I can't say, from what I saw of those, that I'd have wanted to see any of those versions. But I was curious, as it's been more than 50 years, if any artists had tried to depict these unseen beings.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Oops.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Oops, again.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I agree, Solium. There have been attempts to remake the film and I can't say, from what I saw of those, that I'd have wanted to see any of those versions. But I was curious, as it's been more than 50 years, if any artists had tried to depict these unseen beings.

Agreed. I love the film process and seeing preliminary design work and outtakes.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

A couple from a quick search on google.





I know . . . very 50s!


I like the top one. Quite deleriously nightmarish.

I'm sick of movie aliens these days. They're either the type with loads of boring jaws and teeth, sinews, rippling muscles (yes, aliens workout apparently) that we've been looking since Alien in '79, or they're the (ughh) thin, bulbous headed, big eyed things we've been looking at since Invaders From Mars in '51.

Jesus, how about an alien that actually looks alien! Like it appears on screen and everybody goes "WTF is THAT?!"

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Just realized those old Krell Id Monster paintings, above, are quite similar to the Martians that Stan Winston Studio created in Tobe Hooper's 1986 remake of "Invaders from Mars" -- a nasty ball of teeth on legs -- I wonder if the resemblance was deliberate?

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

This one had quite a mischievous sense of humor, on top of which it wouldn't play ball.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Heh heh:

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

HA HA! If she's not careful she's liable to get the tickling of her life before being sent sleepy-by.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

I like that bottom one.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Oh, my friend Krell? Oh, yeah, you'd love him; uh, he's got brains, a great personality, uh, did I mention he's smart?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I'm a huge fan of Forbidden Planet and watched it only the other week on blu ray. It surely is one of the best episodes of Star Trek ever isn't it?

I wonder if anyone can answer something that has been rattling around my brain for a while. In the air win Allen show The Time Tunnel, I seem to recall there were a few matte shots of the internals of the base which seemed very similar to the inner workings of the Krell laboratory. Now, I haven't seen Time Tunnel in years and years so my recollection is very dim, but were these simply stock shots from Forbidden Planet or just similar designs? I know Irwin Allen pretty much invented the use of stock shots in his shows (and never moreso than in Time Tunnel) but his shows were all Fox productions and Forbidden Planet was of course MGM so not sure that would have worked.

Answers on a postcard please.....

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2014 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

Mike, I just happened to be watching some old footage from The Time Tunnel recently on YouTube. I had forgotten those shots you just mentioned. They were not swiped from Forbidden Planet, but were definitely based on the Krell interiors concept from that film.

 
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