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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1      Non-Film Score Discussion: LP Pressing Quality   Last Post   Posted:   Aug 26, 2014 - 1:58 PM     By:   jackfu   (Member) Just wondering about your experiences with LP pressings. For example a few years ago I bought a “new”, sealed LP, The Immortal Victor Herbert (RCA LSC2515, “Shaded Dog”, 1961) at a reasonable price. It indeed looked brand-new; mint, no visible scuffs, etc., but upon ripping it to my hard drive, it had quite a bit of hiss and what sounded like surface noise. Sent it to a business for professional ripping to cd but the sound was no better. I’ve since leaned a little about the importance of pressing numbers, etc., but on rare LP’s one may be hard pressed to find the best pressing numbers. Any thoughts? Thanks! - jack    Posted:   Aug 26, 2014 - 2:12 PM     By:   CinemaScope   (Member) From - I dunno - mid to late seventies I found LP's to be hopeless. They looked fine but seem to come with inbuilt crackle, maybe the vinyl wasn't as good as before. Thank god for CD.    Posted:   Aug 26, 2014 - 2:39 PM     By:   Recordman   (Member) On the RCA "shaded dog" classical LPs (and even it and its subsidiaries' pop) as a rule of thumb the lower the stamper number, the better the pressing as over time later pressings at times were of lesser quality as the stampers would wear. The "stamper" number appears on each side of an RCA label vinyl in the runout groove area (dead wax after the record numbers)) as, e.g."1S" (a first pressing) or a later number such as, e.g. "12S". So an ideal pressing would be 1S/1S indicating the number on each side. Often some stampers were from different later strikes so you might see the two sided pressings numbered as eg, 4/9. At times, a very few of the later pressing were considered by some to be of a of a higher sonic value but that may well be subjective. RCA had the easiest to determine stampings. IMO. BTW, how many of you remember how many grooves there were on a vinyl LP? Just wondering about your experiences with LP pressings. For example a few years ago I bought a “new”, sealed LP, The Immortal Victor Herbert (RCA LSC2515, “Shaded Dog”, 1961) at a reasonable price. It indeed looked brand-new; mint, no visible scuffs, etc., but upon ripping it to my hard drive, it had quite a bit of hiss and what sounded like surface noise. Sent it to a business for professional ripping to cd but the sound was no better. I’ve since leaned a little about the importance of pressing numbers, etc., but on rare LP’s one may be hard pressed to find the best pressing numbers. Any thoughts? Thanks! - jack    Posted:   Aug 26, 2014 - 4:47 PM     By:   jackfu   (Member) On the RCA "shaded dog" classical LPs (and even it and its subsidiaries' pop) as a rule of thumb the lower the stamper number, the better the pressing as over time later pressings at times were of lesser quality as the stampers would wear. The "stamper" number appears on each side of an RCA label vinyl in the runout groove area (dead wax after the record numbers)) as, e.g."1S" (a first pressing) or a later number such as, e.g. "12S". So an ideal pressing would be 1S/1S indicating the number on each side. Often some stampers were from different later strikes so you might see the two sided pressings numbered as eg, 4/9. At times, a very few of the later pressing were considered by some to be of a of a higher sonic value but that may well be subjective. RCA had the easiest to determine stampings. IMO. BTW, how many of you remember how many grooves there were on a vinyl LP? Thanks for the info! I'll have to check with my dad, for whom I purchased and gave that particular LP and cd. And I do remember the number of grooves! That would be One. Thanks!    Posted:   Aug 26, 2014 - 4:57 PM     By:   Recordman   (Member) BTW, how many of you remember how many grooves there were on a vinyl LP? Thanks for the info! I'll have to check with my dad, for whom I purchased and gave that particular LP and cd. And I do remember the number of grooves! That would be One. Thanks! Wrong Answer, Jackfu, but close    Posted:   Aug 26, 2014 - 5:30 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) From - I dunno - mid to late seventies I found LP's to be hopeless. They looked fine but seem to come with inbuilt crackle, maybe the vinyl wasn't as good as before. Thank god for CD. Could that have something to do with the oil shortage at the time? I know a lot of roof shingles were defective around that time too.    Posted:   Aug 26, 2014 - 5:32 PM     By:   Doc Loch   (Member) Does your question about the number of grooves apply to the original pressing of the Monty Python Matching Tie and Handkerchief album?    Posted:   Aug 26, 2014 - 8:15 PM     By:   Recordman   (Member) Does your question about the number of grooves apply to the original pressing of the Monty Python Matching Tie and Handkerchief album? Those novelty multi-groove different story/endings recordings go way back before Monty Python into at least the 78rpm era.    Posted:   Aug 27, 2014 - 1:53 AM     By:   manderley   (Member) .....From - I dunno - mid to late seventies I found LP's to be hopeless. They looked fine but seem to come with inbuilt crackle, maybe the vinyl wasn't as good as before..... It's always been my understanding that good "virgin" vinyl was expensive and was part of the budgetary process for first-class releases. I've also heard that old vinyl records were collected and ground up and, with a little new vinyl added into the mix, became the lesser quality material for stamped discs. Some of the MCA pressings in the 70s were horrible, I remember. There was also a tale (I assume it was a "tale," though there may be some truth to it) that the vinyl of some of the extremely obscure value/budget labels of years ago---usually selling at 99 cents and 1.99---was made up of a bit of new material, but mostly of ground up and melted down old plastic buttons for clothing. It was also said that some of these low-budget record-producing enterprises were money-laundering operations for the mob.    Posted:   Aug 27, 2014 - 5:23 AM     By:   jackfu   (Member) And I do remember the number of grooves! That would be One. Thanks! Wrong Answer, Jackfu, but close Was I right on a per side basis?     Non-Film Score Discussion: LP Pressing Quality    < 1  >   Go to page:  1   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1

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