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Just out of interest, if Axanar was an original concept rather than a Trek derivative, I wonder how the producers would feel if Paramount came along and made a professional version of their film, without permission, without obtaining legal rights.
I imagine they would be pretty pissed off.
Wonder what that means for the other fan productions?
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Just out of interest, if Axanar was an original concept rather than a Trek derivative, I wonder how the producers would feel if Paramount came along and made a professional version of their film, without permission, without obtaining legal rights.
I imagine they would be pretty pissed off.
It's not quite the same thing.
These fan films are acknowledged as coming from a existing property. No one on the fan or the studio side denies where the source material comes from, or how it's being exploited. AND the studio has allowed these fan films to exist for many years.
The Paramount/CBS reaction is really quite extreme, considering.
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Jan 3, 2016 - 3:10 AM
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Mike_J
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Just out of interest, if Axanar was an original concept rather than a Trek derivative, I wonder how the producers would feel if Paramount came along and made a professional version of their film, without permission, without obtaining legal rights.
I imagine they would be pretty pissed off.
It's not quite the same thing.
These fan films are acknowledged as coming from a existing property. No one on the fan or the studio side denies where the source material comes from, or how it's being exploited. AND the studio has allowed these fan films to exist for many years.
The Paramount/CBS reaction is really quite extreme, considering.
Sorry, but I think it's exactly the same. Acknowledgement of a trademark does not magically stop it being an infringement.
Nor is it in any way relevant that fan films have been around for years. The fact that Paramount haven't sued before is not a precident to say they now can't.
My own take on this is that Axanar has blurred the lines between fan movie and professional production, especially given the apparent budget and all the inherent merchandise (like selling the soundtrack). Yes, the producers say Axanar is a not-for-profit enterprise - but are Paramount expected to just accept that? A lot of people who defraud global taxation regulations use precisely the same argument about not making a profit.
From a purely commercial point of view, I think it is totally understandable that Paramount / CBS are litigating this. I do exactly he same if I was the rights holder.
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I understand the protection of IP, but many pros need to sue themselves for creative laziness before they go beating the bushes for amateurs.
This isn't some studio picking on a little guy just because they feel threatened by their IP slip showing. Alec Peters has gone beyond merely a fan film and has said it several times. There's well over a hundred pages, so I can't go threw it all to find quotes and transcribed quotes from pictures, but here's a sampling:
When people saw our 20 minute short film, we got buzz in the industry--better than anything J.J. Abrams is doing.
We're giving Star Trek fans what they're not getting from the studios."
We're on the cutting-edge of entertainment media. Others build sets but we're building a real studio style production."
It is important to remember that what started out as a glorified fan film is now a fully professional production.
Please note that we are a professional production.
EVERYTHING costs more when you are a professional production and not a fan film.
In regards to his studio, Ares Studios: "This will allow us to not only make 'Axanar' but other Star Trek projects after Axanar and other Sci-Fi projects.
Help us fund the Axanar full-length feature film by purchasing Axanar Coffee. A portion of the sales price goes directly to the film-makers of Axanar.
http://www.axanarcoffee.com/
Maybe CBS feels threatened by the quality of what we’re doing.
CBS quotes Peters saying the following: "look and feel like a true Star Trek movie"
And Peters is calling it a feature film that, even though he's been sued, still says will go into production in February.
By his own admission he's making a feature film, says it's better than the man helmning CBS' current film franchise, and is stating he's directly challenging them. He has no persmission, is paying nothing to them, is profitting, with their property, and is intentionally trying to compete with them both film wise but even possibly series wise. He's poking them in the CBS eye with their own fingers and bragging about it.
This isn't David vs. Goliath, this is David vs. another kid calling himself David and how he'll be a better David than David is.
The more I read about this, the more clear it becomes: CBS HAD to do something about it. I'm only surprised they didn't earlier.
Oh, and the best thing about waking up, isn't Axanar coffee in your cup.
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*searches for the franchises that have "proved" JJ Abrams is at "amateur status"*
Nope, can't see anything.
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>Snip<
Eh- whatever.
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