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 Posted:   Aug 3, 2014 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I finally saw this film from 1992 on youtube, with Oliver Stone as executive producer. Strong and powerful stuff about life in the L.A. gangs. I'm a bit surprised the film wasn't a bigger hit. Maybe something to do with the fact that it didn't really have any stars in it.

Full movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSVBuQ6mYBU

I saw the film only to get a listen to Tim Truman's unreleased score. The soundtrack album on Hollywood Basic featured nothing but hip hop. I have to say the score was really good, the strongest parts being some sax-led themes kind of similar to Jonathan Elias' Two Moon Junction and even some of Hans Zimmer's rhythmic early 90s scores.

No electric guitars like the ones Truman used in Miami Vice, but lots of almost "ambient" sections reminiscent of his Freefall theme from Vice, even down to the sole final major note in the last picture in the film!

Also some percussive things, and a piano-led "emotional" theme.

I was surprised to find out that Brian Reeves was music scoring mixer, I guess this was the only time he worked with Truman.

A real pity that the album didn't feature a theme or two of the score, but no such luck. I wonder if we will ever see this score get a well-deserved release on CD??

Opinions on film or score?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2014 - 1:06 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I saw the film about 15 years ago. I was expecting a action filled gang-banger film, but it's much more thoughtful than that.

You can hear that sax in the 90-second opening credits here:

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2014 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Yes, that's the link I provided. :-D

I came to think of it, that sax theme may have been the forerunner to Truman's Sunset Beach theme..

 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2014 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

bump

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2016 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

2017?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2021 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   ray92   (Member)

I watched this movie today. Pleasantly surprised that I liked it. But most of all I liked Tim Truman's score. Wow! The final cue is especially pleasant and touching!

Tim is a really talented man and knows how to touch the heart with his music. Don't miss this work by Truman. It's cool and beautiful in its own way. Just listen to the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P7--qInGo8

If I understood correctly the rights to this film and the original score belong to Warner Bros.? We need an official release of this score! big grin. La-La Land perhaps, or Intrada?

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2021 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Wow, I didn't know about that suite.

Truman has got a DAT with the master tapes. I don't know who owns the rights.

I just asked LaLa if they have considered releasing the score and they replied "can't say we have". :-(

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 4:00 AM   
 By:   ray92   (Member)

Oh, it's great that Tim has tapes! big grin
Sorry, but due to translation difficulties, I didn't quite understand the answer from La La Land. That is, they do not want to do this release?

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 4:08 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

LaLa haven't considered it, which means they haven't thought about it. Maybe they don't know how the score sounds.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 4:31 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

LaLa haven't considered it, which means they haven't thought about it. Maybe they don't know how the score sounds.

Or maybe they know that the score to a film almost nobody has heard of scored by a a composer who barely anybody cares about won't sell a lot of copies.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

LaLa haven't considered it, which means they haven't thought about it. Maybe they don't know how the score sounds.

Or maybe they know that the score to a film almost nobody has heard of scored scored by a a composer who barely anybody cares about won't sell a lot of copies.


Wow, good morning to you too.

I guess you are aware of the kind of scores getting released nowadays. Labels like Dragons Domain/Buysoundtrax for instance are releasing far more obscure stuff than an Oliver Stone production from the 90s.

And Truman's Miami Vice-stuff has got thousands of fans, so he is clearly not "a composer who barely anybody cares about".

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   ray92   (Member)

LaLa haven't considered it, which means they haven't thought about it. Maybe they don't know how the score sounds.

Thanks for the clarification!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   ray92   (Member)

I completely and completely agree with the First Breath!

By the way, I'm still amazed at how Dragons Domaines releases such little-known scores) (LOL - sometimes I can't even immediately find information on Wikipedia about those weird movies and composers). And yet they are sold. Not fast but it sold. Because it makes sense!
Not everything sells tons and fast. And not all FANS of John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith!! Just most of them. I really like variety. And it is electronic music that gives me this! So I probably forever became attached to the synthesizer scores 80-90.
As for Tim Truman ... I think we may all be surprised at how many Truman fans can REALLY have. The fact that his music is not released does not say anything. It even seems to me that interest in him would increase if the labels started releasing his archival music. Tim earned a great reputation for his music in Miami. But in addition to the Miami score, he composed a lot of worthy soundtracks!

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I'd say ask Ford and maybe he'll consider a The Tim Truman Collection: Volume 1.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Would have been AMAZING!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2021 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   ray92   (Member)

I think the chances may be ...

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2021 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I think the chances may be ...

You're starting to sound like Randy Watson.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2021 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   ray92   (Member)

I think the chances may be ...

You're starting to sound like Randy Watson.


What exactly? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2021 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   ray92   (Member)

I think the chances may be ...

You're starting to sound like Randy Watson.


I think you better know, sir)

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2021 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • I finally saw this film from 1992 on youtube, with Oliver Stone as executive producer. Strong and powerful stuff about life in the L.A. gangs. I'm a bit surprised the film wasn't a bigger hit. Maybe something to do with the fact that it didn't really have any stars in it.

    I vaguely remember there being a one-season TV show of South Central a few years after the film's release.

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