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 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

What is the rationale for putting an hour's worth of music on disc 1 and 25 minutes' worth of music on disc 2?

Why not divide it semi-evenly?

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Are you talking about Patriot Games?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Any of them. It's not like the 25 minutes are extras; they are part of the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Depends on who's doing the two CD set. Some rationales are purely musical, some are arbitrary and have no meaning whatsoever.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

In this case, it is "The Red House." Disc 1 is an hour; disc 2 is 24 minutes. It is a strange choice.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 9:48 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Is it possible that certain pressing plants charge different rates according to the length of the content?

What I mean is that maybe a plant will say that CD1 will be $X if it's a little topheavy, while CD2 will be $X-Y if it's, say, half the length of CD1.

It's a noodle-scratcher.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

In this case, it is "The Red House." Disc 1 is an hour; disc 2 is 24 minutes. It is a strange choice.

It's like this. Someone puts in a disc, burns the content, then a window comes up saying disc full put in another disc... Well that's how it used to work back in my Windows days!

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 10:05 PM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

In this case, it is "The Red House." Disc 1 is an hour; disc 2 is 24 minutes. It is a strange choice.


I don't have the score, nor seen the film, but does the third act of the film perhaps start at the second disc?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 10:06 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

In this case, it is "The Red House." Disc 1 is an hour; disc 2 is 24 minutes. It is a strange choice.

It's like this. Someone puts in a disc, burns the content, then a window comes up saying disc full put in another disc... Well that's how it used to work back in my Windows days!


Or you can just edit the master to 79 minutes and you have a single CD.

If you are going to go over by that few minutes, that a reasonable approach I'm my view.

That's one idea.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 10:13 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


I don't have the score, nor seen the film, but does the third act of the film perhaps start at the second disc?


I don't know. I've never seen the film. Other than the 2-CD set, I had only a short suite that was on a Capitol Records 10" LP from the early 1950s,. If the act divisions were the rationale, it seems like a strange choice. I will probably end up either burning 2 CDs of semi-equal length, or cutting out 5 minutes and fitting 80 minutes onto 1 CD.

Strangeā€¦

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 1:41 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Most labels are quite clever when it comes to splitting content.

LLL on the other hand... oomph! I will never understand the rationale behind Masters Of The Universe and Patriot Games. Neither score had to be split at all! Just crazy thinking. Thankfully Intrada rectified MOTU.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 4:08 AM   
 By:   Matt S.   (Member)

In this case, it is "The Red House." Disc 1 is an hour; disc 2 is 24 minutes. It is a strange choice.

Here is the rationale on the Intrada product page:

Note: complete score would not fit on one CD and we refused to cut precious bars down to fit. As such, musically appropriate spot to change discs was made with Rozsa's musical architecture in mind. (In other words, CD 1 is considerably longer than CD 2.)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


Or you can just edit the master to 79 minutes and you have a single CD.

If you are going to go over by that few minutes, that a reasonable approach I'm my view.


Well, not when a CD can have 82 and a half minutes...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


Note: complete score would not fit on one CD and we refused to cut precious bars down to fit. As such, musically appropriate spot to change discs was made with Rozsa's musical architecture in mind. (In other words, CD 1 is considerably longer than CD 2.)


Well that is interesting. I have both discs uploaded onto the computer on a single playlist. I will have to pay more attention to the musical shift at that point.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Wasn't there also speculation a while back that the 47-minute Man in Half Moon Street disc was recorded at the same time as Red House and may have been intended to fill up the second disc?

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

May I ask why in the world anyone would prefer their double discs to be of roughly equivalent lengths?

Seems to me, unless both discs are near full (in which case you'd have no choice but to break at the halfway point), you'd try to find a logical "intermission" to give a break while the listener switches discs. Of course, many people have multi disc players that switch automatically with very little break, and a lot of people just rip them into the computer, at which point the disks are only a data delivery system. But for those people who are still listening on a single disc player, you might as well make it the best listening experience.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

May I ask why in the world anyone would prefer their double discs to be of roughly equivalent lengths?



Because it seems like an odd choice, and I'm unlikely to play a 25-minute disc. But I understand that in this case there were artistic considerations.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

First world problems.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

It's a bit like earnestly discussing the lengths of various typewriter ribbons.

It's another reason I'd be happy to be rid of the virtually defunct CD medium and hope for the release of more scores as lossless or hi-res downloads.

 
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