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 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Why are you obsessing over THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES? I enjoy the film as well but I don't make too much out of it.

Didn't you see HEARTLAND or EAGLE'S WING ? They are a lot more interesting and worth talking about than Eastwood's one-note pontification.


obsessing??? i was just brain boshed that you chucked it in a pay no mind bucket with the Charley films and other stuff not even a patch on josey wales. but then youve answered that coz you dont like eastwood and you preferred the books

feel free to talk about Eagles wing but i might fall asleep. i did during the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Wrong. I like Eastwood okay I just don't lose my head over him.

You fell asleep during EAGLE'S WING? You mean because Eastwood wasn't in it, right?

Of the films he directed I liked WHITE HUNTER BLACK HEART and HEARTBREAK RIDGE very much. Also liked the Giallo-influenced PLAY MISTY FOR ME, remember that, with the song "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face." Good thriller. I just don't think much of Eastwood's westerns, that's all. He has so much charisma. Charisma to burn. Enough charisma to last three lifetimes. People are so taken by his charisma they give him a free pass on things they'd criticize other directors for.

By the way, I think THE BEGUILED (1972) is first-rate, outstanding Gothic drama. Takes place in the deep south during the Civil War. It's a period film, yes, but it's not a western. The west didn't happen in Georgia. I think it's one of the best films Don Siegel ever directed. And yes, Eastwood is the star.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)


You fell asleep during EAGLE'S WING? You mean because Eastwood wasn't in it, right?


Ouch. you shot me ya low down critter!!
Nah, you are assuming iam some kind of Eastwood nut, but personally i think Clint - can i call him Clint? - wasted his potential.

anyway, must fly. Gotta go and look up the beguiled.
don, who did you say?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Siegel. Don Siegel. The director of TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARA, DIRTY HARRY, CHARLEY VARRICK and ESCAPE FROM ALCATRAZ not to mention the original INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS, among others.

I amended my list above. Check it out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

never heard of him!

lets face facts dickie, - sonny boy, you and me just aint communicating.
i think you lost me when you claimed italian westerns arent allowed.

im outa here. no more western threads for me.

3 legged dog goes into a saloon.
he says "im looking for the man who shot mah paw!"

i'll get my coat!

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2016 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

Bad Company (1972)
Blazing Saddles (1974)
Duck You Sucker (1972)
The Great Northfield Minnesota Raid (1972)
Hearts of the West (1975)
Junior Bonner (1972)
The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean (1972)
Little Big Man (1970)
McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971)
My Name is Nobody (1973)
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1973)
Posse (1975)
Wild Rovers (1971)

There's a kind of farewell to the classic western by the mid-1970s: Posse ends with disillusion, Blazing Saddles makes fun of the whole genre, and Hearts of the West is about the beginnings of the movie western.


Looks like I avoided modern day westerns in my original list, but I should make note of:

Comes a Horseman (interestingly set in the 1940s, underrated Pakula)
Junior Bonner (Peckinpah and McQueen, for pete's sake)
Pocket Money (first saw this as a kid on TV; it was the first time I ever saw the gag of a gringo attempting to communicate in Spanish, only to have the Spanish speaker (after staying silent for a lengthy period) talk to the poor Anglo in perfect English. Hilarious joke when I was 12!)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2016 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)


I watched for the first time the modern-day western: The Electric Horseman (1979).
I was pleased to enjoy that sour view on a former rodeo champion who tried to redeem himself.
Actor Robert Redford really shines in the role.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

I meant to include the excellent Lawman on my list, but not Shoot Out, also from 1971, which is a bit of a drag.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I meant to include the excellent Lawman on my list, but not Shoot Out, also from 1971, which is a bit of a drag.

Lawman is released on Blu-ray in Germany on Jan.27th, & for UK fans it's on ITV4 in HD tomorrow afternoon (& next Saturday).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

I think Altman's Buffalo Bill and the Indians is overdue for reevaluation. Like Network, made the same year, I think it was ahead of its time in predicting the direction things were going (though Altman and co-writer Alan Rudolph did it in the context of a period piece). McCabe and Mrs. Miller has undergone a major critical reassessment and is now considered one of the key films of the 1970s, so I have hopes that the same eventually will happen for Buffalo Bill. I used to show it in my film classes in the early '90s and some of my former students who I've stayed in touch with still quote lines from it. At the time, the only person I remember sharing my appreciation of the film was sportscaster Bob Costas, who at that time had a late night interview show. He did two nights with Altman and spent about half of one night talking about Buffalo Bill.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2017 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Why are you obsessing over THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES? I enjoy the film as well but I don't make too much out of it.

Didn't you see HEARTLAND or EAGLE'S WING ? They are a lot more interesting and worth talking about than Eastwood's one-note pontification.


obsessing??? i was just brain boshed that you chucked it in a pay no mind bucket with the Charley films and other stuff not even a patch on josey wales. but then youve answered that coz you dont like eastwood and you preferred the books

feel free to talk about Eagles wing but i might fall asleep. i did during the film.[/endquote

The Outlaw Josey Wales is THE BEST western of the '70s.

 
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