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A friend of John Bender's (forgive me, I forgot who) actually SAW the following in a pile of tapes to be dumped:
"MISTER MOSES"
"WALKABOUT"
"THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY"
Of course there is still a possibility of other copies, but master elements of these were definitely dumped.
Cheers
Well, I can't speak for the first two, but if the moderator will allow me a little leniency, two or so years ago an unmentionable of the Morricone score showed up, as a 4CD set, with all the score, alternate tracks, cues not used. Seems he recorded a good deal. And that tapes are somewhere.
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Its confirmed that Williams' Dracula is MIA and Moonraker is also supposed to be MIA.
When Perseverance rereleased Red Sonja it was also mentioned that the original tapes are MIA. There were also mentions that Alien 3 is supposedly MIA.
We also know that Fright Night and Friday the 13th 1-5 were MIA and their releases used film stems (with better results in the Friday the 13th case, as the scores seemed to have been less altered during dubbing stage. Other known cases are the Satan Bug action tracks and the electronics of Damnation Alley. There's some controversy in the case of The Dark Crystal.
In some cases scores supposedly MIA were found out (Conan, King Kong 76).
So could a list of "confirmed MIA scores" be prepared? What is rumor and what's really confirmed?
Of course in these cases the best hope is for rerecordings (i'd love complete rerecordings of Dracula, Red Sonja, Moonraker and Satan Bug)
What's your definition of 'confirmed'?
Take "MOONRAKER". Can we say that these recordings are definitely lost? No. There's lots of apocrypha but no confirmation.
And since when was "KING KONG" (76) lost and then found? Where does that come from?
Cheers
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as much as i like rerecordings, nothing can compete the original, and if its lost, its a "lost artwork" for all time, think of it as a "Mona Lisa", you did not want to paint it new 
Plenty of scores were poorly and hurriedly recorded, included flubbed notes, included bar or tempo adjustments to accommodate last-minute edits, were improperly stored, etc. So I respectfully disagree with your assertion that "nothing can compete with the original."
If a score contains, say, jazz elements or other elements reflecting oral/aural traditions, too much can go wrong, and I would rather hear the original in almost every instance.
But if it's straight orchestral music, I would much prefer that the written score is preserved over the original recording. Just the opinion of this marsupial.
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I remember reading some years ago that the tapes for Jerry Goldsmith's Seamus(1973) had gone "missing" I don't know if this is still the case?
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All the early Hammer Films. The only reason the '59 "Mummy" survived was because a copy was made for use in "Curse of the Mummy's Tomb" in '64.
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How could this thread get this far along and no one has mentioned RAISE THE TITANIC, the Grand Poobah of all lost scores? (I may be satisfied with the re-recording, but not everyone is.)
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How could this thread get this far along and no one has mentioned RAISE THE TITANIC, the Grand Poobah of all lost scores? (I may be satisfied with the re-recording, but not everyone is.)
Because many of us could care less.
And some couldn't....
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QUO VADIS - I cannot believe this is lost!
A nice re-recording release from Tadlow but then it reminds of the same for
'The Fall Of The Roman Empire' when suddenly LALA found & bought out this definitive
release from Rosza!
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LLL's Fall of the Roman Empire is certainly the most beautiful LOOKING release of that score, with props to the amazing Jim Titus. I cherish that release because of that, as well as the fine liner notes and improved sound quality on what was available of the original recording.
But the FotRE recording I'll usually pick to actually LISTEN to is the superb Tadlow/Prometheus complete re-recording. It's amazing.
Yavar
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Is there any word on the original tapes of Bernard Herrmann's PSYCHO?
Don't know if there's been any info on this one in the last few years.
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Good thread, lots of interesting info.
My heart dropped when I saw Mark of Zorro on that list, one of my grail scores. But so many of the golden age classics are missing also. Pity.
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I remember reading some years ago that the tapes for Jerry Goldsmith's Seamus(1973) had gone "missing" I don't know if this is still the case?
As you are from Ireland, it's an easy mistake, but you mean "Shamus," American slang for a private eye, not Seamus, the Irish male name.
Ha ha, yes bless you SchiffyM. I actually did notice my error at the time of posting and I corrected myself, I thought, but I was too late and the post went through unchanged.
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