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 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)


Curious to know whether the restored Director's Cut of Barker's epic Monster Bash was scored by Elfman before it was cut down to bare bones. Anyone know? Looking forward to seeing the new--or original--version (see link), but worried that it could be loaded with awkward music edits and lots of re-tracking.

I guess if they finesse it a bit, use careful fading they could massage the music situation so it doesn't distract too much. And who knows, maybe there were scoring sessions that survived and will be a part of the Director's Cut.

Think there'll be more of Cronenberg's "clinically crazy" Decker? He's a hoot in this.


http://bloody-disgusting.com/home-video/3301234/clive-barkers-nightbreed-gets-directors-cut-release-tv-series-development/

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Curious to know whether the restored Director's Cut of Barker's epic Monster Bash was scored by Elfman before it was cut down to bare bones. Anyone know? Looking forward to seeing the new--or original--version (see link), but worried that it could be loaded with awkward music edits and lots of re-tracking.

I guess if they finesse it a bit, use careful fading they could massage the music situation so it doesn't distract too much. And who knows, maybe there were scoring sessions that survived and will be a part of the Director's Cut.

Think there'll be more of Cronenberg's "clinically crazy" Decker? He's a hoot in this.


http://bloody-disgusting.com/home-video/3301234/clive-barkers-nightbreed-gets-directors-cut-release-tv-series-development/


Thanks for the heads up, been waiting for this release for a long time. The special edition set at 80$... yowza.

I don't believe Elfman scored the longer version, yes there is more Decker in it, and I hope they will have included Doug Bradley's original voice (he got overdubbed in the existing version).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

Curious to know whether the restored Director's Cut of Barker's epic Monster Bash was scored by Elfman before it was cut down to bare bones. Anyone know? Looking forward to seeing the new--or original--version (see link), but worried that it could be loaded with awkward music edits and lots of re-tracking.

I guess if they finesse it a bit, use careful fading they could massage the music situation so it doesn't distract too much. And who knows, maybe there were scoring sessions that survived and will be a part of the Director's Cut.

Think there'll be more of Cronenberg's "clinically crazy" Decker? He's a hoot in this.


http://bloody-disgusting.com/home-video/3301234/clive-barkers-nightbreed-gets-directors-cut-release-tv-series-development/


Thanks for the heads up, been waiting for this release for a long time. The special edition set at 80$... yowza.

I don't believe Elfman scored the longer version, yes there is more Decker in it, and I hope they will have included Doug Bradley's original voice (he got overdubbed in the existing version).




Thanks, Francis. I'm a lot more interested in this now that I understand they actually found the original film elements. When this was first announced, the article I was reading misreported that the source of the new footage would be the poor quality VHS rumored to be floating around. I thought, what's the point? But this is a different ball game.

The music editing does sound like it's going to be an issue, and there can be other problems with "restored" editions with rough edits, degradation that can't be completely smoothed over, sound problems, etc., leaving things feeling less than cohesive...which is why I wish the--ahem--more affordable release also included the theatrical cut in case a host of issues makes the director's cut more of an archival curiosity that fails to erase memory and preference for the original theatrical cut. Could happen, but really glad we're getting a chance to see Barker's best stab at reassembling his original vision. Maybe they'll eventually release the theatrical on its own--and less expensively--after the limited edition has sold out?



 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 2:26 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Thanks, Francis. I'm a lot more interested in this now that I understand they actually found the original film elements. When this was first announced, the article I was reading misreported that the source of the new footage would be the poor quality VHS rumored to be floating around. I thought, what's the point? But this is a different ball game.

The music editing does sound like it's going to be an issue, and there can be other problems with "restored" editions with rough edits, degradation that can't be completely smoothed over, sound problems, etc., leaving things feeling less than cohesive...which is why I wish the--ahem--more affordable release also included the theatrical cut in case a host of issues makes the director's cut more of an archival curiosity that fails to erase memory and preference for the original theatrical cut. Could happen, but really glad we're getting a chance to see Barker's best stab at reassembling his original vision. Maybe they'll eventually release the theatrical on its own--and less expensively--after the limited edition has sold out?


It is great news they found the film elements as all they had was a vhs copy beforehand. Also Barker's involvement with recreating this and supervising it makes me believe that any music editing will be done properly. I agree about the absurd pricing; I own the widescreen theatrical cut on dvd, not sure if I'd go to the lengths of paying 80 $ + shipping (which easily amounts to 100 $ without customs) for one movie... I think I'll stick to the regular version with the director's cut as this is the one I want to see the most.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 2:18 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I did go ahead and pre-order the limited edition on amazon where it was 55 $ and is now sold out. I heard there will be even more deleted scenes etc. on the third disc only in the limited edition and don't want to miss out! This seems to be going fast, still available at Shout and Best Buy but I wouldn't wait too long if you're thinking of getting the LE.

The regular edition I don't think will sell out that fast.

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

Years ago I believe that Barker stated that the principal hindrance to assembling a director's cut was in fact the music score, which had been done after the editing. It will be interesting to see that that was resolved. Fans of Danny Elfman will probably have to brace themselves - there's probably a lot of repeated and mistimed cues now.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2014 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

Years ago I believe that Barker stated that the principal hindrance to assembling a director's cut was in fact the music score, which had been done after the editing. It will be interesting to see that that was resolved. Fans of Danny Elfman will probably have to brace themselves - there's probably a lot of repeated and mistimed cues now.


Anyone had a chance to assess this yet? Overall, reviews are very positive, though--as expected--re-tracking of score and some sound issues are getting a cursory mention.

 
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