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 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

Jeff,

There is a mistake in your liner notes.

The title design for "Altered States" was by R/Greenberg Associates. Not Adam Greenberg. (whoever that is)
The R stands for Richard and Robert. Richard Greenberg was the creative director and his brother Robert was the businessman. They came to prominence as the leading title design company of the day through their connection with Steve Frankfurt (of "To Kill A Mockingbird" fame).

They did many famous movie titles including "Superman" (1978), Dirty Dancing, The Untouchables, The Goonies, Ghostbusters and many more. Richard even directed a movie (Little Monsters).

The company still exists today as R/GA (as a very successful digital advertising agency) run by Robert Greenberg sans Richard.

I had the honor of working for them for ten years. A rich and rewarding experience that changed my life forever.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

Jeff,

There is a mistake in your liner notes.

The title design for "Altered States" was by R/Greenberg Associates. Not Adam Greenberg. (whoever that is)


Adam Greenberg was the director of photography on Terminator & Terminator 2 for James Cameron.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

Jeff,

There is a mistake in your liner notes.

The title design for "Altered States" was by R/Greenberg Associates. Not Adam Greenberg. (whoever that is)


Adam Greenberg was the director of photography on Terminator & Terminator 2 for James Cameron.


Now that you mention it I remember meeting him at an R/Greenberg TV commercial shoot. Very nice guy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 8:41 PM   
 By:   jonnyquest   (Member)

R/Greenberg Associates indeed created many of my favorite title sequences of the era, and may be most famous for the influential opening title design for:

A L I E N

: ) As a Creative Director with a design/art direction background, any of us in the profession can totally support the claim that those tracked out letters ushered in a massive trend for widely kerned type that is still going strong today. I also ripped off the criss-crossing letters of Altered States all through Art School in the early 80's, LOL.

I was about to resurrect my "In Praise Of Jeff Bond" thread to thank him for how much I enjoy his notes, as the Altered States booklet was as enjoyable as the best of his work. So I'll thank you in my usual slavish way right here Jeff, to take away the sting of someone fact-checking you. I love reading your work as much as I love the music. In fact, I was on the fence about whether or not to buy the new release of Altered States, as I still have the original LP in pristine shape as well as the RCA cd. But it's a landmark score for me, and when I saw you were doing the notes, that tipped the scales. Great rerelease with stunning sound, and the usual Luxe Bond notes. If any one is in doubt about re-buying this one, don't be...grab it!

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

R/Greenberg Associates indeed created many of my favorite title sequences of the era, and may be most famous for the influential opening title design for:

A L I E N

: ) As a Creative Director with a design/art direction background, any of us in the profession can totally support the claim that those tracked out letters ushered in a massive trend for widely kerned type that is still going strong today. I also ripped off the criss-crossing letters of Altered States all through Art School in the early 80's, LOL.

I was about to resurrect my "In Praise Of Jeff Bond" thread to thank him for how much I enjoy his notes, as the Altered States booklet was as enjoyable as the best of his work. So I'll thank you in my usual slavish way right here Jeff, to take away the sting of someone fact-checking you. I love reading your work as much as I love the music. In fact, I was on the fence about whether or not to buy the new release of Altered States, as I still have the original LP in pristine shape as well as the RCA cd. But it's a landmark score for me, and when I saw you were doing the notes, that tipped the scales. Great rerelease with stunning sound, and the usual Luxe Bond notes. If any one is in doubt about re-buying this one, don't be...grab it!


On the contrary, I wasn't fact checking at all. I throughly enjoyed Jeff's notes. I was just disappointed to see the mistake. After all I spent a decade with those guys and wanted them to get their due.

It was a very interesting time to be working in NYC. At the time Altered States was in production I worked at 850 7th Ave, the same place where Paddy Chayefsky had his office. I spoke with him in the elevator about his dissatisfaction with Ken Russell.
The Carnegie Deli was on the first floor and everybody in NYC show business ate there. Now it's gone.

Where did you go to school? Pratt or SVA? I went to Pratt.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

There is a mistake in the price.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   jonnyquest   (Member)



On the contrary, I wasn't fact checking at all. I throughly enjoyed Jeff's notes. I was just disappointed to see the mistake. After all I spent a decade with those guys and wanted them to get their due.

It was a very interesting time to be working in NYC. At the time Altered States was in production I worked at 850 7th Ave, the same place where Paddy Chayefsky had his office. I spoke with him in the elevator about his dissatisfaction with Ken Russell.
The Carnegie Deli was on the first floor and everybody in NYC show business ate there. Now it's gone.

Where did you go to school? Pratt or SVA? I went to Pratt.


Oh no I wasn't saying "fact checking" in a mean-spirited way, I was teasing Jeff, like "you got fact-checked!" In fact I think you brought it up in a respectful and interesting way, which is what started this conversation. I didn't go anywhere as prestigious as Pratt or SVA. I graduated from The Art Institute of Pittsburgh and also took classes at Carnegie Mellon. What a great era you chose to work in NYC at R/Greenberg!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

He also erred in the beginning of the inlay notes when he said that Paddy Chaefsky wrote "Requiem For A Heavyweight" when it was actually was written by Rod Serling, and he said that "Altered States" was ":Corligliano's first film score". Not true. While "Altered States" was his first feature film score (and earned him his first Oscar nomination), he actually had scored a documentary short in 1974 (according to Randall Larson in the original edition of "Musique Fantastique").

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

The whole booklet is a tissue of lies.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I'm not sure how Adam Greenberg happened; I do know who R/Greenberg & Associates are. I was working on the Planet of the Apes book at the same time I was doing Altered States though and I must have gotten my Serling and Chayevsky streams crossed in the middle of that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

The Carnegie Deli was on the first floor and everybody in NYC show business ate there. Now it's gone.


C'mon Bob, I just ate there this past weekend.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Brandon Brown   (Member)

Where did you go to school? Pratt or SVA? I went to Pratt.

It's neat seeing a Pratt alum around here. I just graduated from Pratt a few weeks ago.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

The Carnegie Deli was on the first floor and everybody in NYC show business ate there. Now it's gone.


C'mon Bob, I just ate there this past weekend.


I just read on line that it closed! You can't believe anything that you read online or in Jeff's liner notes.

I'll bet you're still working on the sandwich.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

Where did you go to school? Pratt or SVA? I went to Pratt.

It's neat seeing a Pratt alum around here. I just graduated from Pratt a few weeks ago.


Brandon,

Pratt is still the best art school out there (sorry Eugene). I just retired after a 6 year stint teaching at SCAD and I wouldn't recommend the place to my worst enemy. It should be SCAM instead of SCAD.

Good luck. I hope you have as much fun in your career as I had in mine. However, I'm only 64 so I'm not finished yet.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

Jeff,

You can't win them all.
I really did enjoy the booklet and it gave me an opportunity to name drop and act like a big shot.

I'll drop one more name. Elia Kazan also had his office in that building and I actually got him to laugh at my Brando imitation once.

Thanks

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Alfachrger   (Member)

Another goof in the notes was that this was Blair Brown's first screen role. The Paper Chase was her first.

It was a very very young Drew Barrymore's first screen role.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Another goof in the notes was that this was Blair Brown's first screen role. The Paper Chase was her first.


The IMDB says that Brown's first feature film role was in the 1972 French-Canadian coproduction HOUSE OF LOVERS, and her first screen appearance was on a 1971 episode of the Canadian-shot television series "Police Surgeon."

Also, according to IMDB, she appeared in 1977's THE CHOIRBOYS and 1980's ONE-TRICK PONY before ALTERED STATES.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2014 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

I hear Stephen Glass is looking to write some soundtrack liner notes. wink

 
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