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 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

SO, there is a photo in a recent Entertainment Weekly featuring the cast of the next STAR WARS movie.
LOOK , its Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher... WOW!

NOT.

consider theses facts:
the last GOOD SW flic was EMPIRE in 1980
that's 4 straight stinkers in a row since ...

and as far as SUPERMAN goes....
the only good one was the first in 1978
that's 5 straight stinkers in a row.

To sum up:
STAR WARS & SUPERMAN have a combined total of 9 straight bombs in a row totaling 70 years of domestic distribution>

"Ya see, they're on a losin streak..."
brm

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

I liked the first Superman, except for his turning back time by reversing the rotation of the earth... when the earth rotating is only how we MEASURE time. The earth rotating has absolutely nothing to do with time moving forward... or backward (if the rotation were reversed). If Superman were able to reverse the rotation of the earth by flying around it in the opposite direction (which I think should be impossible... even for Superman), he'd just kill hundreds of millions of people (or worse). Time would NOT flow backward! Extreme silliness which "suspension of disbelief" doesn't quite excuse... IMO.

They left that out of the new Superman... and I actually thought it wasn't that bad (the new one). Also left out Superbaby being confined for years in a small spaceship (without being able to move, so how did his muscles develop; nor any food to eat). Also left out was his standing for several years in the fortress of solitude learning from the hologram of his dad.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

You just now came to this? I couldn't get excited about a new Superman films after seeing the original sequels to the '79 film. Then I saw the hammy '90's live action series. Then I saw the Godawful designs and plot outline for the Tim Burton film that didn't thankfully get off the ground. Then there was, of course, the two attemps.

I reached the same point with Star Wars after seeing TPM, and seeing parts of the next two crapquels.

I'll do you a couple better: I can't get excited about a new Williams score. I can't get excited about new superhero scores.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Well for anyone growing up when SW or SMTMP came out they were unique cinematic experiences. Same with the first Raiders film. They were fresh, new, made for a modern audience and well executed. It's a very rare case where a sequel captures that magical moment all over again.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

I never thought Superman was reversing the Earth rotation, but flew faster than light to go back in time himself (which below would look like the Earth reversing direction to him).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Sometimes things are just unfilmable and one needs to use identifiable points of visual metaphor to get the point across.
The Earth counter-revolving was, to my mind, a charming and almost poetic way of accomplishing this.

On the other hand, remember the 1st time travel sequence in "ST-IV: The Voyage Home"?
What the deuce was THAT about? LOL
big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Good then, save your money and skip these new movies you hate so much. I'm about to give up on the theatrical experience completely.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Just to clarify, those aren't facts, those are opinions...

I happen to the love the first two SUPERMAN films equally, they're a great double feature for me, always have been since they were released. SUPERMAN III has some fun elements, but yes, it's not quite as successful. When it comes to STAR WARS, the first film is the real ground-breaker, but I happen to love all in that series, each one for different reasons. So for me, I can still excited about new movies in both these series, as they involve characters and universes I enjoy escaping into.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2014 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I'm burned out on ... I don't know if it's franchises or action films or the approach Hollywood has or what. But I loved Star Wars and spent a decade defending the prequels and after the Disney buyout, I'm really "meh" about more films (outside of Williams's contributions). I'll give them a whirl but...

(I respect what the Superman movies mean to people and I really like Chris Reeves in the role but never much "bonded" to them either, so I'll refrain from that subject for now.)

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I never thought Superman was reversing the Earth rotation, but flew faster than light to go back in time himself (which below would look like the Earth reversing direction to him).

^ This. It's still very silly indeed, but at least it has some grounding in science.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 4:00 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Try viagra.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

and as far as SUPERMAN goes....
the only good one was the first in 1978
that's 5 straight stinkers in a row.


Somebody's hard to please.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Try viagra.

Exactly.

If the lift has gone, Bruce Marshall, perhaps you should look for alternatives rather than being a big old Debbie Downer.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Try viagra.

Exactly.

If the lift has gone, Bruce Marshall, perhaps you should look for alternatives rather than being a big old Debbie Downer.


Viagra, eh?

I'll hafta look into that.
Thanks for the advice
smile
bruce

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Well for anyone growing up when SW or SMTMP came out they were unique cinematic experiences. Same with the first Raiders film.

yES, THEY WERE!!!!!!
At least INDY has had some sequels that are quite good.

AND, the Bond flics have managed to produce some pretty good flics over the years when the franchised seemed kaput.

So has the BATMAN franchise.

oh well.
brm


 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Well for anyone growing up when SW or SMTMP came out they were unique cinematic experiences. Same with the first Raiders film.

yES, THEY WERE!!!!!!
At least INDY has had some sequels that are quite good.

AND, the Bond flics have managed to produce some pretty good flics over the years when the franchised seemed kaput.

So has the BATMAN franchise.

oh well.
brm


The 1989 Batman is the only good one* until Nolan's trilogy resets it. B&R is one of the worst superhero films ever made.

*I'm not counting '66. 60s Batman is a whole different animal.

None of the Indiana Jones sequels holds up to Raiders. They're watchable, though.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

and as far as SUPERMAN goes....
the only good one was the first in 1978
that's 5 straight stinkers in a row.

Somebody's hard to please.



In that case, I'm even harder to please - never really engaged with any of the Superman, Star Wars or Star Trek* films in any significant way.

TG

* I quite like the rebooted Star Trek, because of the link to the TV series and the Giacchino scores, but that's it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

DP, aka unnecessary sequel

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I quite like the rebooted Star Trek, because of the link to the TV series and the Giacchino scores, but that's it.

STID sucks. It's a SW movie in ST clothes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2014 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Have your wife or girlfriend dress up in a nurses outfit, it may work wonders.

 
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