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 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Re Boba Fett:

I always have the suspicion that because 'Empire' was Lucas's least favourite of the Star Wars movies (by his own admission, I believe), he felt sufficiently pissed off with the fan admiration for the Boba Fett character that he decided to give Fett the most pointless and weak death in Jedi as his own 'revenge'. The same might be possible to say of Jango Fett, in that Lucas kept the weakness of the death as part of the mirroring he was doing between the original and prequel trilogies.

With all due respect, I think that's one of the more ridiculous Star Wars conspiracy theories I've ever encountered, and I've encountered quite a few.

Yeah, right.

From George Lucas, the man who made Jar Jar the reason the Empire got a foothold in the senate after people said how much they hated him. The man that put kid Anakin on the cover of the Blu-Ray sets instead of Luke after people said how much they hate him. The man that made even more changes to the original trilogy long after the fans said how much they hated the changes. The man that added "NOOOOOOO!!!" to the end of Return Of The Jedi after people said how much they hated it in Revenge Of The Sith...

Oh no, he has never shown a vindictive streak. That's just crazy talk there.

Even if you take all that as vindictiveness and not just creative missteps (and the BD set *does* feature Luke as well as Anakin, BTW), it just doesn't make sense. The death clearly wasn't meant to be "weak," even if you find it to be - he was given the most memorable death in the whole scene, with the arguable exception of Jabba's. Should he have just been shot and allowed to fall out of frame like any of the garden-variety henchmen schmucks? I'm actually not sure how his (apparent) death could be made any better, actually, at least without dramatically changing the whole story (like keeping him alive until the end, and having him at Endor or something). His "death" was given multiple shots and everything - a big deal was made of his going out. And then he was even brought back!

 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   darklordsauron   (Member)

Boba Fett was a bit of a dunce in the movies, but in the books, he had his moments. A meeting with Han Solo that ended in a stalemate on a desolate planet where they reflect on life over the barrels of their guns, and a few other times where he did the right thing...for the money. wink

I hated hearing Disney call it a "family friendly property" in one of their press releases...there was room for everything, including stories that might not be as kid friendly or accessible, but now all that will be screened out. And yes, George said that too, but it grew beyond him and I enjoyed as the stories changed as I grew up.

Alas, at 4 billion, I'm sure they'd love to have as many kids in seats as possible, and that means as much child and youth friendly fare as possible.

 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 10:53 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

However, I will say this was a very evocative and iconic shot:

I always thought it would have been darkly hysterical if Jango's head came sliding out mid-shot.

 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 12:10 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

More subjective opinion from me wink

Lucas wasn't writing a story about bounty hunters, but about Jedi. If the Fetts had been given the screen time to properly include their stories, the films would have lost their primary focus. The extended screen time for Jango in 'Clones' was more about him having been the original for the clones than anything else.

To me, an effective bounty hunter is one that realizes they're in it for the money and their life, and nothing more. They know not to get involved in any politics of any kind, including keeping out of other peoples' battles and wars, as that brings them too close to risking their life. There wasn't time to feature much of that in the Star Wars movies, and consequently both characters (Jango and Boba) had to be despatched fairly quickly. Unfortunately for Boba in Jedi, his death comes across to me as slapstick and cheap*. I suppose it could be argued that there is a clumsy streak within the Fett genes that could have led to that turn of events, but I don't think he'd have lasted very long as a bounty hunter if that were genuinely the case.

So, again IMHO, I would like to see a Boba Fett movie that allows Fett to be the bounty hunter properly, including the 'not getting involved' until he has no way not to, and also being ambiguous about where he comes on the scale of good to bad, and consequently allowing the character to be as 'bad' as he needs to be.

*I actually think that the amount of time Fett's death takes up on screen in 'Jedi' strengthens my case for it being Lucas's revenge on the character, as it reflects the sense that the Star Wars films are his subjective and personal storytelling, coming from his heart and feelings for the most part. Almost all the SW films are Lucas's babies, with only 'Empire' having been moved away to something more mature (by Kershner, Kasdan and co.) from his original idea, which was for a series of stories to be somewhat like the Flash Gordon / Buck Rogers serials of the 1930s, and specifically for young boys of about 7 to 12 years of age who weren't concerned with girls and sex and stuff.

 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

Not all Bounty Hunters are cool......

 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

What's with Disney lately? Maleficent apparently was abused, slighted, misunderstood, (whatever) and now Fett is just a working class guy trying to put food on the table? roll eyes

Watch for a revisionist version of A Nightmare On Elm Street where Freddy Krueger was a basically nice guy who had a good reason for murdering little children which the unfeeling adults never understood. roll eyes

JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS---the Jon M. Chu movie will star Aubrey Peeples (NASHVILLE) as Jem. Stefanie Scott, Hayley Kiyoko and Aurora Perrineau will co-star.

She and her friends are Jem girls - Jem! Jem is her name...

 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

While I'd love to see a film focused on the bad guys, I can't see it being popular as people rarely want to see the bad guys win which they really need to do otherwise they don't live up to there name. Its much like Sony wanting to make a movie based on the Sinister Six, I think its a great idea but I just don't see that there is an audience there for it.

Maybe Lucasfilm could approach it like Marvel is starting to with their movies, have the main ones allow them to chances on the less popular characters (Ant Man, Doc Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy). It certainly wouldn't be done to earn big bucks.

 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

However, I will say this was a very evocative and iconic shot:

I always thought it would have been darkly hysterical if Jango's head came sliding out mid-shot.

I would have thought it did, off camera. The foreground is in silhouette, so I think maybe it is a form of symbolism - "from badass to badass, I will avenge thee." Still, there's nothing to stop him from stealing a clone because then, he'd be back in business.

 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Meh, Boba Fett...never got the love for this guy. A few moments in Empire and he gets a funny death in ROTJ. I loves me some Star Wars but never thought Fett was worthy of all the mania.

Screw a Boba Fett movie, give me a Mace Windu movie.

 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I always thought it would have been darkly hysterical if Jango's head came sliding out mid-shot.

I would have thought it did, off camera.

It did indeed. Right after the decapitation there's a shot of the helmet tumbling to and bouncing along on the ground. At the beginning of the shot, before the helmet itself enters the frame, its shadow is seen on the ground with a smaller shadow leaving it - Jango's head flying out of the helmet.

 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

While I'd love to see a film focused on the bad guys, I can't see it being popular

These things only come off if they're comedies.

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