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 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Summer of 42 is out of print selling for astonomical prcies. Reissue by Warner Brothers Japan solves some of that but like all releases is just a reissue of the lp. The lp only has 3 tracks from the movie. Sounds like an expanded version could be score from film and lp. Its warner brothers which might suggest lalaland or intrada??. Plus it would have the added bonus of ruining speculation market for a little while for a sought after score. Any takers?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

You could try to add to expanded release Tony Benetts song based on movie as a bonus.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Summer of 42 is out of print selling for astonomical prcies. Reissue by Warner Brothers Japan solves some of that but like all releases is just a reissue of the lp. The lp only has 3 tracks from the movie. Sounds like an expanded version could be score from film and lp. Its warner brothers which might suggest lalaland or intrada??. Plus it would have the added bonus of ruining speculation market for a little while for a sought after score. Any takers?

When I bought the LP years ago I felt cheated in the fact that I was expecting an album of score and ended up with mostly Picasso Summer. I don't remember the film having a lot of music. Perhaps it could be paired with another score.
Peter Nero had a hit recording of it in the summer of '72.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

This thread title needs an expanded release!

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Pair it with the rejected score and bingo-bango -- one whoppin' good CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   The CinemaScope Cat   (Member)

I stand to be corrected but other than the Summer Of 42 theme which comprises the entire "original" score, what's to be expanded other than adding the source music? There's a reason the soundtrack LP was paired with Legrand's Picasso Summer. There's no original score other than that one theme.

If by expanded you want all the non-original source music, I suppose an expanded "score" makes sense though I personally don't own a soundtrack principally comprised of source music in my collection. But hey, that's just me.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 11:40 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

I downloaded:

Theme From Summer of '42 (3:45)
Summer Song (4:12)
The Bacchanal (1:44)
Lonely Two (1:59)
The Dance (2:08)
Montage: But No Picasso/Full Awakening (3:23)
The Summer Knows (End Title Theme) (1:43)

But skipped High I.Q. (2:06), which was less than charming noise.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

I stand to be corrected but other than the Summer Of 42 theme which comprises the entire "original" score, what's to be expanded other than adding the source music? There's a reason the soundtrack LP was paired with Legrand's Picasso Summer. There's no original score other than that one theme.

If by expanded you want all the non-original source music, I suppose an expanded "score" makes sense though I personally don't own a soundtrack principally comprised of source music in my collection. But hey, that's just me.


What I find ironic to me is they release an album to Summer of 42 and only include the two source versions of the theme. There's no score on the album, most strikingly omitting the 5+ minute opening main title that is achingly nostalgic. To me, it's one of the most beautiful things Legrand has ever composed and if an expansion were to include that alone, it would be worth it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I stand to be corrected but other than the Summer Of 42 theme which comprises the entire "original" score, what's to be expanded other than adding the source music? There's a reason the soundtrack LP was paired with Legrand's Picasso Summer. There's no original score other than that one theme.

If by expanded you want all the non-original source music, I suppose an expanded "score" makes sense though I personally don't own a soundtrack principally comprised of source music in my collection. But hey, that's just me.


What I find ironic to me is they release an album to Summer of 42 and only include the two source versions of the theme. There's no score on the album, most strikingly omitting the 5+ minute opening main title that is achingly nostalgic. To me, it's one of the most beautiful things Legrand has ever composed and if an expansion were to include that alone, it would be worth it.


Thank you for mentioning that Roger.

And as for the score being too short, it could always be paired with another Legrand Warner Bros. score, for example: PORTNOY'S COMPLAINT, OUR TIME or ODE TO BILLY JOE (which was on LP but without the Glynnis O'Connor vocal).

James

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

The complete "Summer of '42" would indeed only be around 15 minutes, so pairing it with another Legrand would be ideal. I think the best pairing would be the aforementioned "Our Time" - if both exist in full, that would be a great, great release.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

I downloaded:

Theme From Summer of '42 (3:45)
Summer Song (4:12)
The Bacchanal (1:44)
Lonely Two (1:59)
The Dance (2:08)
Montage: But No Picasso/Full Awakening (3:23)
The Summer Knows (End Title Theme) (1:43)

But skipped High I.Q. (2:06), which was less than charming noise.


From where did you download???

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Here's the main title from 'Summer Of 42' that Roger mentioned. Absolutely gorgeous. Can't understand how it was left off the original album.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

jkannry: Re: From where did you download???

Email me and I'll tell you.

Ron

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

As a record vender years ago , one of my top selling LP'S. What I always got a kick out of that Lp, how many loved the THE PICASSO SUMMER on the other side. While 42, was a very pretty, fine score. There was something unique and classic with Picasso"s theme by MICHEL.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

The complete "Summer of '42" would indeed only be around 15 minutes, so pairing it with another Legrand would be ideal. I think the best pairing would be the aforementioned "Our Time" - if both exist in full, that would be a great, great release.

What's wrong with Picasso Summer that it's already paired with?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Admittedly, it's been many years since I've seen the film but aside from that long opening cue and the final piece leading into the end title, the only other cue may have been a source music version of the theme that plays under the scene where Gary Grimes dances with Jennifer O'Neill before "the" scene. Looking back on the film, I have a feeling that Jennifer O'Neill's unique manifestation of grief in the third act would be much harder to accept as believable today, despite director Mulligan's usual sensitive treatment of the whole story.

By the way, from middle '70 to late '71 there was an actual Schwann catalogue listing for PICASSO SUMMER that gave evidence of a planned solo release that was cancelled when the film fell through the cracks at Warners. It was no big surprise to me and some film music friends when it finally appeared, propping up an official release of some music from SUMMER OF '42 when the '42 theme became a minor hit back in the day. (Was Roger Williams the big record of it?) Back then and to this day, I find the PICASSO score the more listenable part of the album although the '42 theme is quite nice.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Zaku   (Member)

Hahaha when I got into film scores some years ago I was freaking out about this score. I couldn't understand how this score had won an academy award, had a front cover that read Summer of 42 - Original motion picture score and it had only 2 cues from the movie, the vast majority of the music being from another movie. I just couldn't understand what was going on, the injustice!

Yeah, it's a beautiful theme by Legrand, melancholic as I like them.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I've seen film of "The Picasso Summer" and the film tracks are from a different session. The score as heard on the "Summer of '42" album is a re-recording presumably prepared to accompany a wide release of a film the studio had hopes for even after a reportedly awful production. When the film was shelved they had this re-recording they'd already invested money in. If it's possible, a separate release of "The Picasso Summer" including the original and re-recording would be ideal rather than including it with "Summer of '42" again - all of the music on the album is brilliant but it's problematic too - the album title overshadows "Picasso" and having 90% of the album being "Picasso" overshadows "Summer of '42." I would rather have "Picasso" stand alone and an expansion of "Summer of '42" include an unreleased Legrand.

Also, "Picasso Summer" was heavily re-shot after the original director (Serge Bourguignon) was fired from the production - I mention this because Randy Newman was apparently involved in the Bourguignon cut, and while it isn't known if he recorded anything there is a strong possibility that there is a rejected score too.

Does anybody have any information about what Dave Grusin's "Summer of '42" sounded like? Somehow I imagine him writing an all source music score for it, or going into the jazzy direction of the period band music.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Dylan: Re: "Does anybody have any information about what Dave Grusin's "Summer of '42" sounded like? Somehow I imagine him writing an all source music score for it, or going into the jazzy direction of the period band music."

I think Grusin would have come up with a wonderful score, perhaps along the lines of his "On Golden Pond."

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 8:19 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Dylan: Re: "Does anybody have any information about what Dave Grusin's "Summer of '42" sounded like? Somehow I imagine him writing an all source music score for it, or going into the jazzy direction of the period band music."

I think Grusin would have come up with a wonderful score, perhaps along the lines of his "On Golden Pond."


This is the first I've heard that it was Dave Grusin who wrote the original score for SUMMER OF '42. I always wondered who it was.

James

 
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