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 Posted:   Apr 22, 2014 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Classic is an overused label these days for movies and music that are less than deserving, he is certainly a great director that made lots of less than great films. But I always love Roy Scheider, there is something real about him every roles he plays. As far as TD, they are mostly a hit and miss affair, and Friedkin is a hit and miss director as far as how he works with music, I do not think he sounds like he is ever very certain about what he wants to do with scores.


 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2014 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

Is he a great director? I've seen no real evidence of that.

I saw SORCERER during its original release. It was during a period of time, when I hated every film I was seeing at a movie theater. In fact, 1977 is probably my very least favorite year for motion pictures. Having said that, I didn't hate the film, as much as most others I was seeing. However, I don't recall being compelled to ever see it, again, either.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2014 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Re Friedkin:

THE EXORCIST is an undisputed classic and a masterpiece

FRENCH CONNECTION is a film that was great in its day but i do not know if it will be considerd a classic in future decades (or even now).

Talk about a director who flamed out fast!!!!!
brm

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2014 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A. from 1985 is also tremendously good. And, yes, THE FRENCH CONNECTION will remain a classic - its Oscar for Best Picture will ensure it won't fall into obscurity.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2014 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Is he a great director? I've seen no real evidence of that.

I saw SORCERER during its original release. It was during a period of time, when I hated every film I was seeing at a movie theater. In fact, 1977 is probably my very least favorite year for motion pictures. Having said that, I didn't hate the film, as much as most others I was seeing. However, I don't recall being compelled to ever see it, again, either.


I think just on the basis of French Connection, and perhaps To Live and Die in LA you can argue that he was a great director, yeah, he had a lot of other misses, but there have been many great directors that had few great films, like David Lynch, or Stanley Kubrick. I think these two films remain very effective to this day. French Connection in particular was groundbreaking in its spare approach, brutally real and beautiful at the same time.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 12:06 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I always liked the story of how Friedkin risked serious bodily injury to Ellen Burstyn (without warning her or getting her permission) during the filming of THE EXORCIST, just to make a scene look more "realistic". The man is, was, and will always be the consummate asshole IMO. By most accounts I've read, SORCEROR was a ponderous bore (does this sound like a classic?) and hammered a rather large nail in his directorial coffin. I haven't seen it and don't plan to. Scheider I like, but he was a little hit or miss with the role selection.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

". The man is, was, and will always be the consummate asshole ....

Can you imaging Billy & Benny Herrmann working on the same film??????????????????!!!!!!!
it almost happened with EXORCIST!!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

...., yes, THE FRENCH CONNECTION will remain a classic - its Oscar for Best Picture will ensure it won't fall into obscurity.

i HOPE SO!
winning Best Picture is no guarantee, though (CRASH anyone? )
bruce

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

...., yes, THE FRENCH CONNECTION will remain a classic - its Oscar for Best Picture will ensure it won't fall into obscurity.

i HOPE SO!
winning Best Picture is no guarantee, though (CRASH anyone? )
bruce


lol, true. I meant that, for better or worse, a BP Oscar keeps a movie well-known even to cinema novices - just like there are people who use the list of Pulitzer winners for best novel as a guide when they are exploring the past highlights of American lit.

So I too hope that movie enthusiasts years from now still find FRENCH CONNECTION and other great films of that era viable - but that's a speculation for another thread!

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

...., yes, THE FRENCH CONNECTION will remain a classic - its Oscar for Best Picture will ensure it won't fall into obscurity.

i HOPE SO!
winning Best Picture is no guarantee, though (CRASH anyone? )
bruce


.

So I too hope that movie enthusiasts years from now still find FRENCH CONNECTION and other great films of that era viable - !


Yeah, cuz lets face it, there have been a ton of films in its wake with great car chases.
Whole series of films, in fact.
TFC had that, and much, much more!

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

". The man is, was, and will always be the consummate asshole ....

Can you imaging Billy & Benny Herrmann working on the same film?


and Phil Spector as the Music Supervisor!!!!!!
brm

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

French Connection in particular was groundbreaking in its spare approach, brutally real and beautiful at the same time.

Get Carter (the original with Michael Caine) was made fractionally earlier and took a very similar emotional and aesthetic (documentary type long lens shots, real locations etc) approach. There must have been a trend brewing at the time - maybe Haskell Wexler's "Medium Cool" started it. I'm not sure.

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2014 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

Re Friedkin:

THE EXORCIST is an undisputed classic and a masterpiece

FRENCH CONNECTION is a film that was great in its day but i do not know if it will be considerd a classic in future decades (or even now).

Talk about a director who flamed out fast!!!!!
brm


I don't like THE FRENCH CONNECTION, and I like EXORCIST 3 better. Although, I like THE EXORCIST, very much.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

British label Entertainment One has officially announced that it will celebrate the 40th anniversary of director William Friedkin's film Sorcerer (1977) with a new Collector's Edition. The release will be available for purchase on November 6th.

Synopsis: Exiled from their home nations, four strangers from separate corners of the earth agree to undertake a dangerous mission to transport unstable dynamite through the dense jungle of South America in order to earn their passage home.

When the slightest bump in the road could equal instant death, the real question is not whether these men will survive this nerve-shredding ordeal but who will they have become if they return at all?

After the success of The French Connection and The Exorcist, William Friedkin began work on his biggest project to date. Seizing the moment, he embarked on an ambitious and lengthy shoot in the dense jungles of the Dominican Republic and like Werner Herzog with Fitzcoraldo and Francis Ford Coppola on Apocalypse Now, Friedkin battled the elements, came face-to-face with nature and emerged victorious.

Now, 40 years since its release, Sorcerer is regarded by critics and ?lmmakers alike as a true lost cinematic masterpiece - a feat of ?lmmaking that encapsulates the revolutionary artistry of 1970s American cinema that is a triumph to behold.

Special Features and Technical Specs:
Sorcerers - A Conversation with William Friedkin and Nicolas Winding Refn (74 minutes)
The Mystery of Fate - A letter from director William Friedkin
Newly commissioned artwork to celebrate the 40th Anniversary
Reversible sleeve containing the newly commissioned and original theatrical artwork

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=22137

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

Sorcerer is a great film, I really enjoy it. It's in my top ten. The whole look of it is superb and the bridge sequence is really well done. Love the score too, especially the Betrayal track.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Another Kermode vid on Stephen King's favourite film Sorceror...



I've never seen it but would love to. Wages of Fear is rightly a classic, it's been a long time since I've seen it though.

A little personal story. An old friend of mine Gina who at that point was a very new friend came to my place and was fascinated and loved the fact I had so many soundtracks, she mentioned that it would be great to introduce me to her ex-boyfriend who she told me also loved film scores. That meeting never took place but the ex-boyfriend was Mark Kermode.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

Holy Moley, so close to greatness. (I mean Kermode of course).

I have both Wages of Fear and Sorcerer and enjoy them both.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Sorcerer, which I saw when it first came out and watched again on Blu-ray three years ago, is a classic example of a very well-mounted remake that somehow just pales when compared to The Wages of Fear. There are a couple amazing scenes but the whole is just "meh". That's the only kind of classic it is, a classic cinematic "Meh".

I often agree with Mark Kermode, but I don't about Sorcerer.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   msmith   (Member)

We saw this film when if first came out and though it was terrible. I don't remember anyone liking it at the time.
I do find it interesting why something so bad can look so good 40 years later.
Is it because some films just play better on TV than they do in a movie theatre?
Is it because todays films are so awful that bad films from the past look better in comparison?
Is it a pure form of suggestion to tell the modern public a bad film is wonderful and have the pubic go along with it rather than go against the norm?

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2017 - 6:56 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

It's like the old expression says, "There's just no accounting for taste."

 
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