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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1      General Discussion: Jaws JW music in Spielberg's NIGHT GALLERY pilot?   Last Post   Posted:   Apr 10, 2014 - 9:59 PM     By:   Zooba   (Member) At 3:43 in this Interview clip with Spielberg featuring a scene from his Joan Crawford episode of NIGHT GALLERY. John Williams music from Jaws played ala Music Box? It's part of the Shark Cage Fugue I believe. Very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EeRJCJe88g Here we go, starting at 52:48 Did Spielberg just love this piece of music and have Williams put it in JAWS? Is it a classical piece that Williams adapted, expanded on, or just used? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65vUTBJWlQ The NIGHT GALLERY Pilot movie episodes were credited to William Goldenberg as composer. Billy Goldenberg (pulling a Jerry Jerrald Goldsmith or Johnny John Williams) Goldenberg went on to score Spielberg's DUEL. Wonder if he ever thought he could have been Spielberg's John Williams, since he scored his two early TV outings? Fascinating.    Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 2:38 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Hmm...can't really hear it, zooba. I THINK I know where you hear a slight similarity to the JAWS music in the first few bars of the music box theme, but it's just incidental. By the way, Goldenberg did quite a few Spielberg things in those days, not only NIGHT GALLERY and DUEL.    Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 3:51 PM     By:   Ludwig van   (Member) That does bear a striking resemblance to the B section of the theme in the cue "Out to Sea" from JAWS. Not only are they the same notes of a major scale, but they're in the same rhythm as well. Even so, I'd have to agree with Thor that it's ultimately incidental since I can't think of any reason why Williams would borrow from that for such a short bit of a theme. In any case, thanks for sharing, zoob!    Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 4:02 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) At 3:43 in this Interview clip with Spielberg featuring a scene from his Joan Crawford episode of NIGHT GALLERY. John Williams music from Jaws played ala Music Box? It's part of the Shark Cage Fugue I believe. probably a coincidence that it shows up in both Spielberg products, but probably not an accident that it showed up in Williams' work since he borrowed from classical music.    Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 4:15 PM     By:   Grecchus   (Member) I've also commented on the similarity between some music from Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull sounding very similar to The War Of The Worlds. Notably, The Intersection Scene from the latter. It's that ominous da-da-da, da-da-da, da-da-da . . . rhythm, which I think JW chose to associate with the 'indefatigable' nature of the martians. Although not exactly identical, the similar music from IJATKOTCS plays out when Jones and co are trying to find their way into the pyramid during the final act. As with WOTW, the saucer is buried underground and that is where I thought the connection lay. That is, a profoundly similar plot device between both films found economy in that particular sound. I also thought it may have been a small joke shared between composer and orchestra. Who knows?    Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 4:19 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) I've also commented on the similarity between some music from Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull sounding very similar to The War Of The Worlds. Notably, The Intersection Scene from the latter. It's that ominous da-da-da, da-da-da, da-da-da . . . rhythm, which I think JW chose to associate with the 'indefatigable' nature of the martians. Although not exactly identical, the similar music from IJATKOTCS plays out when Jones and co are trying to find their way into the pyramid during the final act. As with WOTW, the saucer is buried underground and that is where I thought the connection lay. That is, a profoundly similar plot device between both films found economy in that particular sound. If there is a connection there, I doubt it's conscious by Williams. It seems rather to be a type of a minimalistic action/suspense music he's been doing over the last year. There's some of it in A.I. too, and other films from the 2000s -- just a development of his own 'sound'.    Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 4:27 PM     By:   Grecchus   (Member) If there is a connection there, I doubt it's conscious by Williams. It seems rather to be a type of a minimalistic action/suspense music he's been doing over the last year. There's some of it in A.I. too, and other films from the 2000s -- just a development of his own 'sound'. What, the same methodical sense of mechanistic repetitiveness in A.I.? Whereabouts, Thor?    Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 5:24 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) If there is a connection there, I doubt it's conscious by Williams. It seems rather to be a type of a minimalistic action/suspense music he's been doing over the last year. There's some of it in A.I. too, and other films from the 2000s -- just a development of his own 'sound'. What, the same methodical sense of mechanistic repetitiveness in A.I.? Whereabouts, Thor? Like the helicopter cue, for example. There's quite a bit in MINORITY REPORT too, including "Anderton's Great Escape". It's all very John Adams.    Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 6:32 AM     By:   Grecchus   (Member) I'll check out both the DvDs, Thor. Don't have the actual scores on CD, though I've just received La La's The Fury and am looking forward to whirling the discs some.    Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 10:59 AM     By:   vinylscrubber   (Member) Sigmund Spaeth, "The Tune Detective", strikes again!    Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 11:31 AM     By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member) I'll check out both the DvDs, Thor. Don't have the actual scores on CD, though I've just received La La's The Fury and am looking forward to whirling the discs some. Grecchus, you'll be "whirling" after you give that London Symphony Orchestra disc from THE FURY a spin. Peerless movie composition. Primo stuff.    Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 12:11 PM     By:   Jeff Bond   (Member) I think these things are accidental more often than you'd think. I remember asking Williams about the "Hitchcock" moment in Star Wars when Luke, Han, Ben and Chewbacca rise up out of the Millennium Falcon floorboards--to me you couldn't ask for a more obvious musical reference, written and played exactly like a similar moment in Psycho. But Williams had no recollection of referencing it--for him it was just an appropriate dramatic gesture in the moment. I think a lot of times composers are in the zone and are not consciously referencing other pieces of music--that doesn't mean they haven't heard them, and obviously when they incorporate lengthy sections of well-known classical compositions that's another thing. But they're not always out there looking for brilliant ways to reference other pieces of music.    Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 1:05 PM     By:   unamochilla2   (Member) I didn't really hear "Jaws" in this clip but rather some music in "The Santa Clause." Specifically, tracks "Away from the Window" and "Not Over Any Oceans."     General Discussion: Jaws JW music in Spielberg's NIGHT GALLERY pilot?    < 1  >   Go to page:  1   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1

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