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 Posted:   Jan 22, 2014 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

Takes me back 10 years when I first started the "Recordman" rarer LP covers series and "Hot Rod Rumble" was the first in the series.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=23000&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

I don't see how you can blame Fresh Sounds for the fact that Amazon.de screwed up its website, or for the heightened expectations caused by Amazon's error. The HOT ROD RUMBLE CD itself does not contain any indication that it is in stereo. And it was always apparent that the CDs would be mastered from LPs. I'm pleased with the quality of what I've heard so far.

Glad you like your purchase, Bob. I've just never heard of Fresh Sounds and the errors we've seen don't make for warm, fuzzy feelings. Mastering from LP doesn't help either.

In looking at the back of the CD for COLLEGE CONFIDENTIAL, there is the notation "Jazz Orchestra conducted by Franz Waxman." I wonder where Fresh Sounds dug up that credit, as neither the film nor the original soundtrack LP mention Waxman's name.

Can I rest my case? wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

DP

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Fresh sounds has been around for decades. Jodi Pujol has done a great job over the years reissuing lots of rare jazz that otherwise has languished. It is not at all unusual for labels to make mono/stereo errors in liner notes, as they are at times making revisions to the master as various masters are located. This is why many labels do not include mono/stereo info; a tape may be found after the artwork has been printed. If you don't want to buy HRR on cd, your choices are the original liberty lp or the fresh sounds lp. Happy hunting.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Just listened to the Stevens disc of Hell To Eternity and The Interns.

Sound quality of the jazz tracks is very good (as expected from Fresh Sounds), despite a good number of LP clicks being slightly distracting at times. Not my kind of jazz though - too much swingin' dance stuff. I prefer the moodier, broodier kind of jazz.

There is one orchestral "score" track at the very end which sounds so bad it has to be heard to be believed. Extraordinary that any label would release such an unlistenable track. I think this track must be the worst audio quality of any orchestral film music I've ever heard released on CDs, including those sourced from the oldest and most worn of acetates. Really.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 8:08 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Basil,

I mentioned that horrible quality in a previous post, where I was talking about the Fresh Sounds mid-'80s LP of this score. It seems like excessive noise-reduction was used on that release, like they had to master the re-release from a noisy LP source. The big-band tracks come out a little bit better, although even they exhibit the blemishes of the noise-reduction process. But that score cue is indeed horrible.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

But that score cue is indeed horrible.


Using one's imagination to "hear" what the track might be like if reproduced adequately, it's a quality piece of Stevens orchestral music. What a pity it's such a mess. It's not just noise reduction problems – the instability and extraneous noises make it sound like the source material was trodden underfoot and ground into the sidewalk like a cigarette butt.
All my previous experience of Fresh Sounds has been very good, so I'll consider this awful track a one-off black mark.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

I just bought and listened to two of their CD's - The Interns / Hell To Eternity and one not pictured above - The Wild One / Private Hell. I was amazed at the sound. Some of the titles are in excellent stereo. Whoever did this and whatever the source - these are almost pristine. I've become a Leith Stevens fan virtually overnight. I always enjoyed his sci-fi orchestral scores, but his jazz stuff is minor revelation. His melodies are strong and there's virtually never a throwaway track. (Sorry to say but when it came to jazz in the movies even Elmer Bernstein eventually got into the habit of just doing these three-chord progressions with the obligatory short solos especially when writing source music - but Stevens' seems to really CREATE for each piece).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2014 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Regarding HELL TO ETERNITY, does anyone have an original stereo Warwick LP from 1960? Does that last track sound as bad there, or this only a problem in the reissue?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2014 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

I need to qualify my 'rave' a little - that last track on 'Hell To Eternity' does sound dreadful on the CD. You can hear the snap, crackle, pop of vinyl. To my ears everything else sounds like it came from a relatively pristine source. (???)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 3:09 AM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

Just noticed two additional new releases in this series:

M Squad + Mike Hammer (Stanley Wilson / Skip Martin)
Staccato + The Man With The Golden Arm (Elmer Bernstein)

Staccato was previously released on CD in superb sound on the DRG label (paired with Elmer's "Paris Swings" concept album). It's an absolute must have and a great companion piece to the Ava recordings recently released by Intrada.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Just noticed two additional new releases in this series:

M Squad + Mike Hammer (Stanley Wilson / Skip Martin)


These two albums have had at least two previous releases on CD--first on separate CDs from RCA Spain in 1997, then paired on a 2001 CD from Collectables. I suspect that this new version is sourced from these earlier releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2014 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I just found out that back in January, the Fresh Sounds' imprint Blue Moon Records issued a jazz soundtrack "two-fer" CD comprised of the LPs for THE FIVE PENNIES (Dot Records, 1958) and THE GENE KRUPA STORY (Verve Records, 1959). THE FIVE PENNIES was previously released individually on CD by Decca Broadway/Universal back in 2004, and is still available. But this is the first CD release for THE GENE KRUPA STORY, which is most likely mastered from an LP source.





 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2015 - 3:17 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

This past December, the Jazz In the Movies label released their seventh "two-fer" CD (JM 1007), consisting of the LPs for the television series "Checkmate" and "Hong Kong." "Checkmate," of course, was previously issued on a now OOP two-fer by FSM. But the LP for "Hong Kong," a series that ran for only one year on ABC during the 1960-61 season, is making its debut on CD.

Much of the music for "Hong Kong" was composed by Lionel Newman, and he is featured on 9 of the 12 tracks on the LP. A group of top-flight orchestrators, many of them composers in their own right, have orchestrated Newman's tracks--Billy May, Warren Barker, Herb Spencer, Frank Comstock, Earle Hagen, Marty Paich, and Sid Feller. In addition, May, Comstock, and Paich contribute compositions of their own for the album. The original LP (which runs 32:41) was issued on ABC-Paramount Records (ABCS-367).

As for source material for this CD, "Hong Kong" undoubtedly has been mastered from vinyl sources (stereo ones, the producer claims). "Checkmate" may well have been cribbed from the FSM CD.





 
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