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I'm astonished. If these composers can make full live orchestras sound this shitty then they possess skills beyond the ken of most mortals.
I can understand you saying that about someone like Randy Edelman, who regularly used synth overdubs on his strings for his unique sound, or combination composers like Zimmer or his band of merry men... but to say that about classically trained composers who are WELL KNOWN for going out of their way to use full orchestras, and mix their scores accordingly - like Joe Hisaishi, Korzeniowski, Desplat, Mark McKenzie, Carlo Siliotto et al - I'd argue that there's either something wrong with your speakers or your ears, because the live elements of those scores are so obvious they metaphorically smack you in the face.
Also, your comments in the last couple of posts seem to be less about the actual quality of the composition itself, and more to do with the fact that some composers have the audacity to use samples (would that every composer was given a music budget large enough to hire a 100-piece symphony orchestra!), or choose not to write a huge orchestral work for a film that might not require it (solo piano? Begone! Chamber sized ensemble? Not big enough for me!)
Sometimes I get the feeling that people hear what they want to hear in order to support a point.
The disctinction between your 'facts' and your 'opinions' isn't very clear. Please clarify.
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Dec 13, 2013 - 8:14 AM
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Jehannum
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I don't know if film music is dead because I don't watch new films. I do know that, for me, the very idea of film music is dead. If, somehow, I chanced to hear a new film score I liked it wouldn't affect me or interest me in the way the old guys' music did. I'd see it as an anomaly rather than the norm.
Some people of my age range (40s) are concerned not to be like our parents who often switched off completely to new pop music or film stars at a certain age. I don't share that concern and I have certainly switched off to almost all popular culture, especially American films, rap music, Justin Beiber and even my beloved heavy metal.
The interest which remains for me is only in the survivors from an earlier age who are, alas, gradually dying off. All my favourite film and TV composers are now either dead or retired. Yes, the end of my interest in film music coincides exactly with the deaths of Jerry Goldsmith and Elmer Bernstein.
The same will happen to all the other branches of popular culture I enjoy once all the remaining luminaries are gone, or I am.
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Dec 13, 2013 - 8:43 AM
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nz
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You are all just stating your own opinions.Yes,film music may not be what it was in the past.But that doesn't mean it's dead.There are still plenty of composers doing good work today.John Williams,James Horner,James Newton Howard,Alexandre Desplat,Danny Elfman,Randy Newman,and Thomas Newman come to mind.You naysayers are judging today's composers and scores by those of the past,and that's unfair.Movies are different today,and so are their scores.But scoring a film is not-the music must meet the film's needs and bring something to it.There are plenty of good scores today.And remember,not everyone will like every score.It's all a matter of personal taste.
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Dec 13, 2013 - 8:43 AM
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nz
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You are all just stating your own opinions.Yes,film music may not be what it was in the past.But that doesn't mean it's dead.There are still plenty of composers doing good work today.John Williams,James Horner,James Newton Howard,Alexandre Desplat,Danny Elfman,Randy Newman,and Thomas Newman come to mind.You naysayers are judging today's composers and scores by those of the past,and that's unfair.Movies are different today,and so are their scores.But scoring a film is not-the music must meet the film's needs and bring something to it.There are plenty of good scores today.And remember,not everyone will like every score.It's all a matter of personal taste.
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