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 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   jsmiley108   (Member)

It's always struck me how much 'Banning Back Home' from Hook sounds like a piece by Dave Grusin. Maybe I don't know all of Williams' output intimately, but I can't hear Williams' voice in this piece at all. What was the temp track here?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 2:38 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

There was a thread about this awhile back, but I can't remember what we called it. Williams is definitely channeling the Grusin sound here -- in general -- but I'm not sure if it was a specific track.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 3:02 AM   
 By:   MaurizioCaschetto   (Member)

Dave Grusin's "Mountain Dance" from the album of the same name:



Definitely a case of temp love.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 3:56 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

That was it! Thanks, Maurizio. Yeah, I guess it must have been a temp track.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I've said it in other threads, but it's crazy how Spielberg handicaps Williams with the temp. Of all people, you know?

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

Wow. Yeah. Definitely temped there. That's interesting. Not as interesting as the keyboardist's hair in that video (and mustache and outfit and expression), but yeah, 'Banning Back Home' makes a little more sense now. But only a little.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 6:37 AM   
 By:   nerfTractor   (Member)

I always chalked this one up as a wink and a nod to the Johnny Williams of the 60s who already had an illustrious career as a jazz arranger and composer before the 70s came along and changed all that.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

If you want to hear a great piece of "Psuedo-Grusin," check out Robert Folk's main title to CAN'T BUY ME LOVE on the recent Intrada release.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Don't forget the other score that was used as temp track, you guys know what it is.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Don't forget the other score that was used as temp track, you guys know what it is.

Are you talking about Home Alone? I've wondered how it could be possible for Williams to write a theme just one year after such a massive success as Home Alone and have it start out so similarly. Then I thought maybe he was using themes from the aborted Peter Pan from what--1985? I still don't like that theme in Hook, but everything else about it (all right, not "Banning Back Home" either) is fantastic.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Don't forget the other score that was used as temp track, you guys know what it is.

Are you talking about Home Alone? I've wondered how it could be possible for Williams to write a theme just one year after such a massive success as Home Alone and have it start out so similarly. Then I thought maybe he was using themes from the aborted Peter Pan from what--1985? I still don't like that theme in Hook, but everything else about it (all right, not "Banning Back Home" either) is fantastic.


No.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

"Banning back home" is one example among others
I could name "My Friend, The Brachiosaurus" from Jurassic Park (Doyle's Henry V), Going to School from Memoirs of a Geisha (The Last Emperor by David Byrne), and the Jaws theme (Jeckyl and Hyde by Franz Waxman), not to mention the classical influences...

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Oh, you must mean the Delerue score then. Sorry, my brain is not on.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Don't forget the other score that was used as temp track, you guys know what it is.

Are you talking about Home Alone? I've wondered how it could be possible for Williams to write a theme just one year after such a massive success as Home Alone and have it start out so similarly. Then I thought maybe he was using themes from the aborted Peter Pan from what--1985? I still don't like that theme in Hook, but everything else about it (all right, not "Banning Back Home" either) is fantastic.


John Williams used the "childhood" theme from the 1985 project and a couple of other themes/songs.
Would love to hear the Julie Andrews performance of "Childhood".

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Miles (MerM)   (Member)

Don't forget the other score that was used as temp track, you guys know what it is.

And to think if it hadn't been for Hook, I never would've discovered Agnes of God.

 
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