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 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   fisch   (Member)

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS---JJ Abrams commented on Khan and the repeated denials about the character being in the sequel,

"The goal was to not ruin it for anyone who wanted to go see it, but the fact is it ended up I think coming off like we were being coy and we trying to like act like more clever than we are or something. All it really was an attempt to not ruin the thing.The reason why, when you watch the movie you know it's Khan and after one screening everyone knows whatever it is. But, the idea was that for the first hour of the movie the characters in the film don't know. It felt like if we go out with it and we have articles where it's like "KHAN!" and we make it all about him, does it take away from the story.The truth is I think it probably would have been smarter just to say upfront ‘This is who it is.’ It was only trying to preserve the fun of it, and it might have given more time to acclimate and accept that’s what the thing was.The truth is because it was so important to the studio that we not angle this thing for existing fans. If we said it was Khan, it would feel like you’ve really got to know what 'Star Trek' is about to see this movie. That would have been limiting.
I can understand their argument to try to keep that quiet, but I do wonder if it would have seemed a little bit less like an attempt at deception if we had just come out with it"





MAD MAX: FURY ROAD---director George Miller denied rumors that Mel Gibson will have a cameo in the movie, "It would have been nice somehow but, no, it's not true."

NEMESIS---NBC miniseries underway about Eliot Ness, the Cleveland Director of Public Safety, and his efforts to apprehend the Torso Killer who may have killed and decapitated over 40 people in the 1930s.

HANNIBAL---History Channel miniseries underway about Hannibal's early life up to the second Punic War and his rivalry with Scipio Africanus. The script is by Jeffrey Caine (THE CONSTANT GARDNER). Halle Berry is the executive producer.

THE WOLFMAN---NBC series being developed based on the 2010 Benecio Del Toro horror movie.

TURN---AMC Revolutionary War series about a New York farmer and his friends who form a spy ring to defeat the British. Jamie Bell stars.

CHUCKY---creator Don Mancini tweeted another sequel is underway, "To the fans who've asked questions about Alice and the end of #CURSEOFCHUCKY; All will be answered in part 7!"

VINCE LOMBARDI---biomovie underway about the NFL coach with a script by JC Chandor (MARGIN CALL).

MEGAFOOT---horror movie in the early stages of development described as, "Megafoot will feature what we all want! Bigfoot fighting a Cyber-Bigfoot!" Rolfe Kanefsky (NIGHTMARE MAN) is the writer/director.





THE DARKNESS---Marc Silvestri, head of Top Cow Productions, commented on the movie's status, "We’re partnered with Len Wiseman on THE DARKNESS film. It’s over at New Regency, which is on the Fox lot. We’ve gotten one draft of the script and we’re working on that right now. It’s going to happen. Witchblade is in THE DARKNESS film. Originally she was going to be in there as an easter egg for the fans, who would know: hey, that’s Sara Pezzini, that’s the Witchblade.'

DC COMICS---David Goyer (THE DARK KNIGHT) is reportedly working on low budget movies of DC Comics SUICIDE SQUAD, BOOSTER GOLD, TEAM 7 and DEATHSTROKE.

YOUNG JUSTICE---rumored The CW/DC Comics tv series underway about the younger days of the Justice League.

CATS---Andrew Lloyd Webber said a movie based on his play may be underway, "[Universal Pictures] has now got CATS out of the drawer in which they locked it years ago when they bought the rights and suddenly they’re talking about a film.”

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS---JJ Abrams commented on Khan and the repeated denials about the character being in the sequel,

"The goal was to not ruin it for anyone who wanted to go see it, but the fact is it ended up I think coming off like we were being coy and we trying to like act like more clever than we are or something. All it really was an attempt to not ruin the thing.The reason why, when you watch the movie you know it's Khan and after one screening everyone knows whatever it is. But, the idea was that for the first hour of the movie the characters in the film don't know.


Yada Yada Yada. It wasn't a problem in 1982!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   mnrvason   (Member)

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS---JJ Abrams commented on Khan and the repeated denials about the character being in the sequel,

"The goal was to not ruin it for anyone who wanted to go see it, but the fact is it ended up I think coming off like we were being coy and we trying to like act like more clever than we are or something. All it really was an attempt to not ruin the thing.The reason why, when you watch the movie you know it's Khan and after one screening everyone knows whatever it is. But, the idea was that for the first hour of the movie the characters in the film don't know.


Yada Yada Yada. It wasn't a problem in 1982!


But it would have been a problem now. People are so much more cynical. The magic of movies is going the way of the dinosaur and people would have found SOMEHTING to bitch about. That's all people seem to do these days.

SheriffJoe

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS---JJ Abrams commented on Khan and the repeated denials about the character being in the sequel,

"The goal was to not ruin it for anyone who wanted to go see it, but the fact is it ended up I think coming off like we were being coy and we trying to like act like more clever than we are or something. All it really was an attempt to not ruin the thing.The reason why, when you watch the movie you know it's Khan and after one screening everyone knows whatever it is. But, the idea was that for the first hour of the movie the characters in the film don't know.


Yada Yada Yada. It wasn't a problem in 1982!


But it would have been a problem now. People are so much more cynical. The magic of movies is going the way of the dinosaur and people would have found SOMEHTING to bitch about. That's all people seem to do these days.

SheriffJoe


Which is why it was a bad idea to do Wrath Of Khan 2.0, and they knew it.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . But, the idea was that for the first hour of the movie the characters in the film don't know.


How do they know it's Khan in the second hour? Just 'cause he says so? And what difference does it make?

The only character in the Abramsverse who knows who Khan is is Geezer-Spock. The rest of the prequel-cast don't know Khan from Adam, or why they should be afraid of him.

It was just dumb to call him Khan. They had a pretty good idea for a villain without throwing in the arbitrary detail of who he'll turn out to be in the future, a future Abrams & Co. mess up more and more with each prequel.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

It was the worst kept secret in the movies ever anyway!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

At one point, back in 1975, James Earle Jones was interested in the character of Hannibal, and, as preparation, directed a production of Robert E. Sherwood's 1928 play, "The Road to Rome," notable for its use of contemporary language for ancient characters, making seem modern, compared to the stilted language used up to that time, with much Thee-ing and Thou-ing...

Unfortunately, "The Road to Rome," despite being about Hannibal, is essentially a kind of romantic comedy, with a historical setting, and not the great tragedy that, I think, Jones was seeking. (The same property served as the basis for the Esther Williams 1955 musical, JUPITER'S DARLING, which is more fun...)

Jones was a hardworking director, but more interested in exploring the character of Hannibal. For the record, Frankie Faison, who has later had a decent film career in films, was Jones's choice to play Hannibal. I know about the production, because I played Scipio, whose character is written as, to put it mildly, belligerent.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Which is why it was a bad idea to do Wrath Of Khan 2.0, and they knew it.


Well in all fairness it is Star Trek 2.0 and I didn't mind them revisiting Khan, was a much more interesting villain than the forgettable Romulan of the previous movie.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

It was just dumb to call him Khan. They had a pretty good idea for a villain without throwing in the arbitrary detail of who he'll turn out to be in the future, a future Abrams & Co. mess up more and more with each prequel.

You took the words out of my mouth.

I was interested up until he said "I am Khan", at which point I rolled my eyes so hard they detached from the retinas.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

It was just dumb to call him Khan. They had a pretty good idea for a villain without throwing in the arbitrary detail of who he'll turn out to be in the future, a future Abrams & Co. mess up more and more with each prequel.


"Oh, we worked so hard to keep it a secret".
roll eyes
Boo hoo.

It would have been so much more admirable to channel all that effort into coming up with an original story in the first place, rather than standing on the shoulders of giants.

(Hand to God, the only thought the movie provoked in me was how the deuce an evidently normal, red-blooded gal like Uhura was able to cope with EmoSpock's 7-year chubb-cycle. But I admit this was really just a holdover question from the first NuTrek.)

 
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