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 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I think it is funny the fact that this was accompanied by a comment that this doesn't sound like a John Williams score, almost like versatility isn't supposed to be a part of his repertoire. Besides how else would you accompany a film like this ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6oyOeuuGo4&feature=youtu.be

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Damnit, I can't find my old thread on this film and score.

Oh, well.

It's a fascinating score for a sometimes grating film (but with occasional good parts) -- a little bit of IMAGES, perhaps, only slightly more accessible. Wish it got a release.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Wait a minute! I found it. It's not my thread, but I posted my comments in it if you scroll a bit down:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=35251&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

www.johnwilliams.org/compositions/television/screaming-woman

I linked to the above in the thread about the supposed Gil Mellé score for THE ASTRONAUT. Thought it might be of wider interest, and reach more readers if I linked to it here. I don't know if it was mentioned on one of the other "Screaming Woman" threads, but it seems it was mostly tracked with Jerry Goldsmith and Morton Stevens music.

Mistakes can happen. Is this info true?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

www.johnwilliams.org/compositions/television/screaming-woman

I linked to the above in the thread about the supposed Gil Mellé score for THE ASTRONAUT. Thought it might be of wider interest, and reach more readers if I linked to it here. I don't know if it was mentioned on one of the other "Screaming Woman" threads, but it seems it was mostly tracked with Jerry Goldsmith and Morton Stevens music.

Mistakes can happen. Is this info true?


Yes it's true. Not sure about Goldsmith, but definitely Stevens. Probably a few other tracked cues too, by other composers. The only thing Williams composed was the theme that plays over the end, and into the end credits (hence his credit as "Theme by John Williams" rather than "Music by John Williams").

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Thanks Thor. Is there a thread where this is discussed? All the ones I looked at (admittedly skimming) seem to go on about how great the Williams score is, as if he'd written it all.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thanks Thor. Is there a thread where this is discussed? All the ones I looked at (admittedly skimming) seem to go on about how great the Williams score is, as if he'd written it all.

Yeah, but the limited involvement of Williams is a relatively recent discovery (some 4-5 years ago -- when the film was put on Youtube), so earlier threads may not be aware of this yet.

No other specific thread about the film/score (beyond the one linked earlier), that I could remember or find, but we've touched on it on several occasions, like this:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=88091&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I was completely unaware of that relatively recent discovery from 4-5 years ago! Completely passed me by. And here I was thinking I was telling you all something.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

FYI,

This film was made during the musicians strike back in 1972.

Given the credit that Mr. Williams received on the film "Theme by John Williams", it's very possible that he either just wrote the tune and gave it to someone else to score using it and it was recorded overseas at the time or he did indeed compose the full score and it was recorded overseas with someone else conducting.

It's also possible that it was needle drop job using other TV Scores that he had done earlier for other productions that the production company owned.

In any case the only way to find out is to get a copy of the original Cue sheet and see who is credited there.

That is no easy thing to lay your hands on.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

FYI,

This film was made during the musicians strike back in 1972.

Given the credit that Mr. Williams received on the film "Theme by John Williams", it's very possible that he either just wrote the tune and gave it to someone else to score using it and it was recorded overseas at the time or he did indeed compose the full score and it was recorded overseas with someone else conducting.

It's also possible that it was needle drop job using other TV Scores that he had done earlier for other productions that the production company owned.

In any case the only way to find out is to get a copy of the original Cue sheet and see who is credited there.

That is no easy thing to lay your hands on.

Ford A. Thaxton


As previously noted, I can confirm that Williams only wrote the theme in question. This was debated awhile back (but I can't remember where -- if it was here or JWFAN or somewhere else). Someone with access confirmed that the score proper was a mish mash of various sources, none of which were composed by Williams.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

I think the first time this was brought up (that Williams wrote just the end title theme) was here by Ford A. Thaxton:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=3&threadID=106020&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I saw this on TV when it originally aired. I was a kid and it scared the hell out of me. I've never seen it since. Can't remember anything about the music.

 
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