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Most people do not understand the impact of music compression, Jobs and Apple were, are, very successful at making the public thing that there is no difference between a compressed track and a CD or an LP, but there is a difference,. Unfortunately the generation we are talking about now are being raised to never know anything better.
There are a lot of people in the world who would not grasp a bit of what I just said, but this is a score lover forum, so I would hope someone gets this.
ado, I'd kill to have my old 100-watt Technics class A amplifier (with Dolby Surround!) back, with those old Realistic (from Radio Shack!) big-ass speakers equipped with the ferro-cooled tweeters and my old Sony ES CD player.
The day I sold that lot has turned out to be the saddest day of my life.
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... with those old Realistic (from Radio Shack!) big-ass speakers.
Jackal, were they the Mach One?
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Those were awesome-looking speakers. Well-rated too.
I wanted them, but couldn't quite afford them so I went with the Optimus 5-B's (which turned out to be excellent...
and long-lived.
I have a different type - they come in walnut casing.
So nice they double as furniture and a cat seat!
brm
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Have heard Ipods, have heard computer speakers.
They cannot even compare to my 30 plus year old house shaking stereo system. The clarity, broadness of sound....
But if you've not heard the sounds of old stereos you don't know what you miss.
When CD's came sounded bad compared to LP's; now we are used to CD's. But these screaming ants sounds from Ipods and PC 's....it's a ripoff and disservice to all musicians and we as consumers.
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... with those old Realistic (from Radio Shack!) big-ass speakers.
Jackal, were they the Mach One?
Those were awesome-looking speakers. Well-rated too.
I wanted them, but couldn't quite afford them so I went with the Optimus 5-B's (which turned out to be excellent...
and long-lived.
Not the Mach One, but a successor that came out not long after, with a split-dome tweeter, huge woofer, and totally audible midrange.
I played the 1991 MCA soundtrack to SPARTACUS a million times on those speakers, and never tired of it. If I can think of the name of the speaker (other than REALISTIC) I'll post it.
This was a 1989 model. And could have been the latest update of the Mach One. The cabinet looks similar.
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Although I have this terrific Klipsch 7.1 system, including a perfectly good center speaker, I just spent nearly $600 for a new one -- but successfully resisted the temptation for the one going for $1,400!!! And also resisted a subwoofer upgrade, mainly because, after reading comments from those who own it, it looked like it would be a lease breaker!
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And ado, I had missed this 10-1-13 response of yours to me:
@ Ron
Oh I understand that it is very convenient. But convenient is not quality. Technology is also not quality. What I am working against here is the broad assumption that newer technology is an absolute good, and I know that this is a lost battle with most people, because most people think if they like something there is nothing lost or negative about that. There is a definite negative and loss about the good and success of the Apple product. There is a loss, in lots of ways.
It is surely nice you can access tracks on your iPod. But I wonder if the ease with which people access music deprecates the appreciation of music as an pure experience. What I am saying that it is the exact same convenience of this, that you can access 19000 tracks while you are on the train, riding your bike, doing your laundry, eating, mowing the lawn, that might well deprecate the direct and focused consumption of the music. In effect the impact of the Ipod is all music becomes underscore to everything in life. So while at the same time enabling access and making it easier to organize and all that, it also makes it easier to take for granted, and ironically make it a less important part of life, rather than a more important part of life.
It could be compared to a buffet, if you have a well prepared meal on a dinner table I think you might enjoy it more than an entire table with endless choices that you could eat as much as you want. Alas we are a consumption culture where more is better, instead of better is better as in quality is better. Quantity and choice are better, all the while our appetite for music (or other things) might well not be refined, or the product enjoyed more because of it.
Also, most people do not understand the impact of music compression, Jobs and Apple were, are, very successful at making the public thing that there is no difference between a compressed track and a CD or an LP, but there is a difference,. Unfortunately the generation we are talking about now are being raised to never know anything better.
There are a lot of people in the world who would not grasp a bit of what I just said, but this is a score lover forum, so I would hope someone gets this.
But for all those, like you, disparaging the sound quality of the MP3 player with its compression, I see many of them talking about buying $150 speakers. I don't think I've bought a $150 speaker in over 30 years. Did you ever get into DVD-Audio or dts or SACD discs, which are farrrrrrrrrrrrr more dynamic than mere CD? As I wrote above, I recently bought a new center speaker for my system at just under $600, which, of the 8 speakers in the 7.1 system, makes it one of the cheapest. I realize that some may spend as much for one of their speakers as I spent on all of mine, just as I may spend as much on one of mine as some spend on all of theirs, so it's all in the eye of the beholder, or, in this case, the ear of the beholder. When I'm on the go, taking long walks or trying to drown out people on their cellphones, I have no problem with MP3 compression, and sometimes even plug my iPod into my main receiver if I'm not going to do any critical listening. But other times I may use my secondary (Samsung) Blu-ray player, which, unlike my much newer primary, still plays SACD discs, many in surround. It's easy to knock Steve Jobs and the iPod, but don't blame him for the demise of record stores or CD, which was inevitable. And, believe me, I miss the hell out of going to Tower Records to roam those aisles with their musical treasures and speak to their always knowledgeable staff! At least here in Southern California we still have Amoeba Music on Sunset Boulevard, although I buy almost all of my movies and most of my music online. Technology marches on, which, I'll agree, is not always a good thing.
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