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The "Great Pumpkin Waltz" on this new release is a full one-minute longer than the previous version on Concorde's "The Definitive Vince Guaraldi" (3:30 versus 2:29).
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I came to the same conclusion a couple of days ago by examining track 4 in a wave-editor. It's the section from 0:49 to 1:51 that is repeated bit-for-bit at 1:51. Stick with the earlier Concord version, as the new CD is slightly brick-walled. As for "Trick or Treat," there is only one recording. The reprises are merely straight repeats. But the 2nd reprise (track 15) is free of sound effects and can be used to replace the opening of Track 10 (which does have sound effects). I edited it that way, and then replaced the sound effects in the second part of Track 10 by copying and pasting the equivalent section just ahead. So now I have a sound effects-free "Trick or Treats" cue. There was no reason why the new CD couldn't have been mastered that way. (I realize that editing involves a little extra time and money, but a Guaraldiphile would have taken the initiative.) I did a similar thing with track 12, by joining the entire cue (except for the last chord) to the rest of track 12 (at 0:12, after the sound effects). The result is an extended version of "Charlie Brown Theme" with an appropriate coda.
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Oct 20, 2018 - 12:30 PM
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SchiffyM
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Would a faithful re-recording be so difficult? Given the repeated cues, is there even fifteen minutes of original music in this special? (Some tracks are clearly cut from longer cues. The complete recordings are clearly lost to time, but does sheet music exist? Did it ever?) So it would seem the only realistic option would be a compilation – Halloween, Thanksgiving, Valentine, etc. Of course, there have been approximations of this – the relatively faithful (but for piano only) George Winston album "Linus & Lucy," the more interpretive jazz album "Happy Anniversary, Charlie Brown" – but these were not soundtrack albums per se. Given the improvisational nature of jazz, I wonder if a "faithful" new performance would be anathema to many musicians. But I would buy such an album in an instant.
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Would a faithful re-recording be so difficult? Given the repeated cues, is there even fifteen minutes of original music in this special? (Some tracks are clearly cut from longer cues. The complete recordings are clearly lost to time, but does sheet music exist? Did it ever?) So it would seem the only realistic option would be a compilation – Halloween, Thanksgiving, Valentine, etc. Of course, there have been approximations of this – the relatively faithful (but for piano only) George Winston album "Linus & Lucy," the more interpretive jazz album "Happy Anniversary, Charlie Brown" – but these were not soundtrack albums per se. Given the improvisational nature of jazz, I wonder if a "faithful" new performance would be anathema to many musicians. But I would buy such an album in an instant. I think the tricky thing would be that it seems to go both ways. Some of the cues are the Vince Guaraldi Trio, playing his arrangements but also improvising, and the real bummer is that it sounds like there were clearly longer takes of these pieces that we’ll never get to hear (one cue on this release fades out just as someone is starting a solo). But some of the other cues are John Trotter pieces that really do seem like straightforward compositions, and ironically, I think these non-Guaraldi cues are the ones people are really wishing we could have. It really does seem like you could recreate them with a halfway competent flautist and a hi-hat, but they likely only amount to a few minutes of music, and is anybody going to bother with a “all that Peanuts music that’s NOT by Vince Guaraldi, that’s right, you’re welcome everyone” compilation?
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Would a faithful re-recording be so difficult? Given the repeated cues, is there even fifteen minutes of original music in this special? (Some tracks are clearly cut from longer cues. The complete recordings are clearly lost to time, but does sheet music exist? Did it ever?) So it would seem the only realistic option would be a compilation – Halloween, Thanksgiving, Valentine, etc. Of course, there have been approximations of this – the relatively faithful (but for piano only) George Winston album "Linus & Lucy," the more interpretive jazz album "Happy Anniversary, Charlie Brown" – but these were not soundtrack albums per se. Given the improvisational nature of jazz, I wonder if a "faithful" new performance would be anathema to many musicians. But I would buy such an album in an instant. I think the tricky thing would be that it seems to go both ways. Some of the cues are the Vince Guaraldi Trio, playing his arrangements but also improvising, and the real bummer is that it sounds like there were clearly longer takes of these pieces that we’ll never get to hear (one cue on this release fades out just as someone is starting a solo). But some of the other cues are John Trotter pieces that really do seem like straightforward compositions, and ironically, I think these non-Guaraldi cues are the ones people are really wishing we could have. It really does seem like you could recreate them with a halfway competent flautist and a hi-hat, but they likely only amount to a few minutes of music, and is anybody going to bother with a “all that Peanuts music that’s NOT by Vince Guaraldi, that’s right, you’re welcome everyone” compilation?
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