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 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

Sorry I missed the get together, but loved the concert (forgot we had such great tickets, 6th row, in the middle), pretty much loved all of it, but Danny singing was a clear highlight, even Helena Bonham Carter acquitted herself quite well. The orchestra and John Mauceri were terrific, particularly when needing to ensure that the orchestra were playing to the click track in order to match the synths (you could tell, JM put the headphones on), I certainly didn't notice any moments where things were out of sync. Must be tricky to pull that off successfully live.

The one thing I noticed was how much more of a wall of sound there was live compared to the soundtrack albums. For example, the Beetlejuice opening titles music sounds so clear on album but was a thick, swirling maelstrom live. Quite possibly the slightly cruddy acoustics at the RAH, but it certainly makes you realise just how much of a viceral impact the music has live. Similar with Mars Attacks! where the brass got slightly lost amongst the choir and percussion, which is a similar issue on re-recordings whereas the brass are clearly brought out on the original album. Just makes me wonder the extent of the influence of the mix as to how effective the orchestration is/needs to be - i.e. you can fix unbalanced orchestration in the mix. I am not saying that this applies to Danny Elfman's music, but it certainly gives you a different sense of scale live. Compared to say, John Williams where, notwithstanding there is still plenty of viceral impact, the live orchestral balance seems a lot closer to the recordings.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

Batman suite in slightly crappy quality, but gives you an idea what it was like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEaXaigFTus&feature=player_embedded

Karol

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2013 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

Yes the sound was amazing in Leeds Arena , it has actually been open a couple of months but was officially opened at an Elton John concert a few weeks ago.

Richard Kraft and his son and PA were sat a few rows back from me , i would have said hello but he would have thought ... who this ?? lol

One thing which i was hoping for was a programme , they didnt have any ! when I asked they said the promoter had not supplied any for the event .. it would have been a nice souvenir , it was dissapointing that there was no merchandising .

Anyway , it was a great evening . I work just behind the arena and walked past it this morning reflecting on the amazing night .. and to see elfman singing was a once in a lifetime event . I do hope this gets released on DVD ... Varese are you listening ? ;-)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   stalemate12   (Member)

Went to the Glasgow show at the new Hydro last night. Really enjoyed the show, orchestra and acoustics. Seeing and hearing Elfman perform was obviously the highlight, but I thoroughly enjoyed the suite from Edward Scissorhands and Batman/Batman Returns.

I'm a bit puzzled about the previous poster's comments regarding the program. There were plenty available at the Hydro, however, the advertising was all about the RAH, so it would appear that there was just the one generic program for all shows. As to why they weren't available in Leeds is an absolute mystery to me. Btw, in my opinion the Elfman program was one of the better ones I purchased throughout my life and for once I didn't begrudge the fiver!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

... It would have to be a Friday or Saturday for her (or an official holiday). School teacher. End of!

And local if Friday ... ! I know exactly this problem and would have loved to have attended the John Barry/RPO concert last week (Thu - Portsmouth or Fri - London) but it wasn't to be.

I could go to the B'ham Danny Elfman concert (tomorrow, I think) and tickets were advertised at 2/3 off but I'm not that much of a fan. That said, I've enjoyed reading these reports/reviews and am very pleased you've all had a great time.

Mitch


Mitch - if you do decide to go and they have programmes there, get us one, pal!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

Well thats unusual that no programmes were available when they were obviously available at the other shows ... I am going to contact Apollo Digital who are the event organiser and speak to them regarding this to see if I can get one . The press office number for them is 02070318177.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Yes, I noticed there were no programs at the Leeds show. My wife asked me why I didn't ask Richard Kraft very kindly to take the one I bought at the RAH and get it signed by Danny, Tim and Helena, and give it me back in Leeds. Like I knew for certain I'd see him again lol! AND as if he didn't have more to do!

I joked perhaps I should have asked for a backstage pass and a quick go on that theremin while I'm at it!!! Must admit, I'd love to have a crack at Harry Lubin's Outer Limits theme. It would more likely sound like a cat being strangled of course...

But yes, as has been said, a once in a lifetime event. My seeing two shows was a bit of a mistake, but one now I'm so glad I made. Wouldn't change those two days for anything.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Batman suite in slightly crappy quality, but gives you an idea what it was like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEaXaigFTus&feature=player_embedded

Karol


That's not bad actually Karol, and certainly if you've experienced it already it's a great reminder of the event. I see you were in a similar seat to me. The crowd were a little more enthusiastic at the RAH before each of the most popular pieces, cheering as the title came up starting with Batman and carrying on with Edward Scissorhands and NBC really getting a great response.

After that, and Danny and Helena's performances I think we'd have cheered anything, the audience by this time being especially warmed to the performers! The Yorkshire crowd seemed a little reserved by comparison. We too got upgraded tickets (and pretty wonderful seats this time), which at first made me worry about underselling, but by the end there was still the standing ovation, and looking around it was still a healthy crowd, and very appreciative, naturally.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

The Yorkshire crowd seemed a little reserved by comparison.

The word you're looking for, old horse, is "sophisticated"...

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

Batman suite in slightly crappy quality, but gives you an idea what it was like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEaXaigFTus&feature=player_embedded

Karol


That's not bad actually Karol, and certainly if you've experienced it already it's a great reminder of the event. I see you were in a similar seat to me. The crowd were a little more enthusiastic at the RAH before each of the most popular pieces, cheering as the title came up starting with Batman and carrying on with Edward Scissorhands and NBC really getting a great response.


Oh no, I was too busy absorbing music to attempt making any videos or taking pictures. This is just one of the videos I've found. I was sitting in the stalls (pretty much in the middle), so had a very good spot.

Pity you couldn't join us for a drink. It was quite fun. smile

Karol

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

The Yorkshire crowd seemed a little reserved by comparison.

The word you're looking for, old horse, is "sophisticated"...

smile


Ha! Love it. As I said on the Monday afternoon, you don't get much more Yorkshire than Barnsley, where I live.

Maybe then, there were more Americans in the Albert Hall. Personally I loved it when they cheered for Batman, and then later more and more. Reminded me of those lovely Doctor Who Proms.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Batman suite in slightly crappy quality, but gives you an idea what it was like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEaXaigFTus&feature=player_embedded

Karol


That's not bad actually Karol, and certainly if you've experienced it already it's a great reminder of the event. I see you were in a similar seat to me. The crowd were a little more enthusiastic at the RAH before each of the most popular pieces, cheering as the title came up starting with Batman and carrying on with Edward Scissorhands and NBC really getting a great response.


Oh no, I was too busy absorbing music to attempt making any videos or taking pictures. This is just one of the videos I've found. I was sitting in the stalls (pretty much in the middle), so had a very good spot.

Pity you couldn't join us for a drink. It was quite fun. smile

Karol


Bah! On two counts. First the seat I got. Only saw the side of Tim and Helena's heads. Shame the big screen wasn't hooked up to a camera for those of us with a more restricted view.

But even more for that last drink. Was gagging for a pint too. Love my real ale you know. Mind you, the prices! The Norwegians loved how CHEAP it was! I had a couple of halves after I left you stretched out a bit. I would have made more effort if I'd still been with the gang. That photo of Thor's leaves me jealous as hell.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, I had never thought we would find a place that was open past 11. But then we found one that was open to 2. Perfect! Next time, Paul.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

I just wish they had some proper ale, which they didn't. Something heavy, bitter and dark would suit me just fine. smile

Karol

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

...

Mitch - if you do decide to go and they have programmes there, get us one, pal!


Sorry ... no go: an evening in listening to Wagner, Mozart, Bach & Schumann ... and more to follow, probably.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Had a good time at the one in Birmingham tonight. Enjoyable concert. Disappointed not to get a programme but didn't see anyone selling them. (Lots of empty seats.)

But why oh why did they put it in the National Indoor Arena which is a decent enough venue for pop music but not really suited to an orchestra, when arguably the finest concert hall in the country (Birmingham Symphony Hall) is right next door to it?!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2013 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

I don't know, James. How many people can they fit into this concert hall? That's probably the question we should be asking ourselves. Besides, I wouldn't necessarily call this event an orchestral concert, in it's traditional sense - there's a much more crowd-friendly vibe to it. And it's quite appropriate, given Danny's disinterest in anything academia-related. smile

And yeah, it is a great venue. Not that there is anything wrong with our Nottingham concert hall (and it's really good acoustics, one should add).

Karol

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I just wish they had some proper ale, which they didn't. Something heavy, bitter and dark would suit me just fine. smile

Karol


Yes, the pale ales seem to be the best sellers these days, as friends of mine with your tastes also find annoying. I admit I too prefer them pale and hoppy, though I'm with you on the bitter side. Got to have an edge. Still, with the colder months starting there should be more darker ones around. Did you go to the Goat? I popped in there before I got to the Spaghetti House.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

We ended up at a place called Archangel. We weren't picky....as long as they were open, we were fine.

But yeah, I'd love it if they'd had a better selection. Heck, they didn't even have beer on tap, which seems strange to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

We ended up at a place called Archangel. We weren't picky....as long as they were open, we were fine.

But yeah, I'd love it if they'd had a better selection. Heck, they didn't even have beer on tap, which seems strange to me.


What? Bottles only? Not a genuine pub then, but a bar nonetheless. And open 'till 2pm. I suppose there's a compromise there somewhere. I mean, I got my last half in Victoria and they all shut at midnight!

 
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