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 Posted:   Sep 10, 2013 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

also, I'm getting a lot of tape hiss/noise

that is inherent right?


There's more of it in the earlier scores, I think. If I remember correctly, they didn't want to alter the sound with a lot of tinkering.


As I said above, I was very pleasantly surprised at how clean most of it sounds. "The Man Trap" and "The Conscience of the King" (a favorite of mine) sound like new, just to name a couple.

I'm at work now, but the only piece I can think of offhand with a hiss I really noticed was "Sad and Thoughtful on the Captain's Theme," a second season library cue that's so good you like it anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2013 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   chris123   (Member)

I had hiss on almost everything, but I turned my treble way down and now its gone

it was tough to eq it just right so that the hiss was gone, but the sound wasn't majorly changed.

and yeah, in the shipping box was an extra envelope with an extra copy of the main booklet with friend's autograph in one of those silver metallic markers.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2013 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

I've had this box since it came out in December and I still can't go more than a few days before I play it again. I really thought I'd be done by now, but nope! Love this. The cherry on my soundtrack cake.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2013 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   chris123   (Member)

"fried"

not "friend"

oops!

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2013 - 9:30 PM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

The Enemy Within is up today and I'm happy to chime in on Sol Kaplan's unforgettable score.



Track 1) For the first time we hear that four note motive for "Evil Kirk" (E-Kirk) and Kaplan's take on Courage's fanfare.

Track 2) Underscore for the Captain's Log voiceover.

Track 3) I like this melancholy version of the Courage Trek theme as "Good Kirk" (G-Kirk) wants to take a little nap.

Track 4) Gimme the brandy!! E-Kirk swizzles booze and happens upon Rand's quarters. So rude of him to mess up her things. More of that hammering piano. Cool.

Track 5) Yeoman Rand gets her own little theme here and then E-Kirk tries to cut a slice of Yeoman pie. This "attack" music fits so well into that scene in Arena where Kirk gets caught up in the Gorn's rope trap that I used to think it was composed for that scene. A great track. I wonder if the music editors were allowed to speed up or slow down a piece of music to stretch or reduce a cue's running time.

Track 6) Holy bloody knuckles Batman! We have an imposter aboard.

Track 7) More orbit music. Okay, we believe you're Captain Kirk! Isn't it lucky E-Kirk found some flesh colored make-up to cover his scratches?

Track 8) This has become my favorite track in the entire box set. Don't ask me why but I just love the music as G-Kirk and E-Kirk come face to face and we are introduced to the Vulcan Neck Pinch. Watch for the continuity error here as E-Kirk's phaser switches from Type 1 to Type 2 and back again.

Track 9) Follows up on the previous track.

Track 10) What to do indeed. Not much happens here.

Track 11) Happy yet somber music as G-Kirk stops E-Kirk from slipping any further. I love the "Evil Grin" theme here. It was tracked into several episodes including that unintentionally funny scene in Galileo Seven where Nimoy grabs the giant spear and chucks it and then traps the "boulder" against his leg and holds it there. Cracks me up every time.

Track 12) Really sad music as G-Kirk can't decide what to do. Someone help him, please.

Track 13) That hammering piano returns as E-Kirk overpowers the weakened captain.

Track 14) The two Kirks have a final showdown on the bridge. Now the sad music is for E-Kirk. Kaplan was a musical genius.

Track 15) A quick happy version of Courages fanfare as the captain is one again and orders Spock to get the men aboard. Rand's theme returns at the end to wrap things up.

I really listen to this 23 minute score more than any other in the set. Just love it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2013 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Oh! Almost forgot! Listen to The Enemy Within Today! 47 years later…

I'm not even the first post today. Wonderful! Nice job, Adam.

What a score! I talked about how definitively Stat Trek Charlie X was. But this score takes the music of the show to a new level. As terrific and iconic as The Doomsday Machine will be, this score might be better. It’s just that DM is more fun and has a more sweeping stage, I guess.

First off we start with Kaplan’s Enterprise fanfare. I haven’t been watching the show along with these, but it’s my recollection that this would be used in episodes that aired before TEW. It’s that awesome.

Kaplan seemed to get the BIG and AWESOME of the Enterprise mission. Other composers did great takes on the Ship and Her Crew but with Kaplan you can feel the space wind and almost hear Kirk’s teeth gleaming. Which he throws into counterpoint with whatever the tragedy of the week is.

His Bad Kirk theme has its low growly bits, but it’s mainly that big rumbly “let’s beat the snot out of that piano” that I think people remember.

Wow, The Tired Captain. It calls back a lot from Courage’s Doctor Bartender. Noble but gentle. And then we go into Brandy. Kick in the gut, roaming the ship looking for trouble. And we hear that ascending thing on the flutes. It’s played brash and dangerous, but it’s also played like a howling trapped dog. It’s my favorite thing.

Not surprisingly “Good” Kirk is built mostly off of Courage’s fanfare. Courage, Fried, and Steiner all wrote a separate motif for Kirk. Kaplan otoh played the fanfare for all it’s worth.

More “Bad” Kirk. Yeah, this is Gorn music, isn’t it?

Double Dog Death: Boy he could do the act breaks, couldn’t he?

Help Me is just about my favorite Star Trek cue of all time. (If I say that too much, throw a herring at me.) But wow it weeps, doesn’t it?

Those flutes half way through Evil Triumphs. So creepy. Run.

One Captain Kirk! Jaunty! Musically sums up Kirk in 3 seconds.

Ending with a very somber Fanfare (before we go out with the ship) that pretty well incorporates both of the Captains. Swell job, Mr. Kaplan.

I haven’t listened to this score all that much. But every time I do I remark on how terrific it is. Weird.

Big week next week! On Friday the 20th we have The Corbomite Maneuver, Balance of Terror, What Are Little Girls Made Of, AND the Library cues from disc 5! Yikes what a day that must have been!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2013 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   chris123   (Member)

this score is grand all around

I play horn and piano so this one is exciting for me (though the horn part is pretty good in most of tos)

I'm also digging all of the low, low growly strings and woodwinds (alto clarinet? bassoon? it's been a while since I've been in an orchestra.)
I like lots of timpani in my trek as well, and this score provides!

anyway, lascivious captain is a standout for me, as well as the cello solo in spock takes over/help me.

side note, I don't always know when one cue ends and another begins in the joined tracks. are the times out there anywhere?

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Chris, I’m not sure if there are cue “breaks” anywhere. They seem fairly well broken out, I mean there is a good amount of silence between cues. But you’re right, not always.

What a crazy day. THREE landmark scores (even if they are partials)! A bunch of library cues. Then we’re done until NOVEMBER.

(I just re-read Lukas’ post from above. Should I have posted this tomorrow?)

The Corbomite Maneuver.
I feel like I should have gone back and watched / listened to the episodes to hear what music these were tracked with. This would have been a much better series opener than The Man Trap (IMHO) but it not only aired much later, it gets a partial score. I love Steiner, he’s probably my favorite. But I do wonder what Courage might have done here. I do know that if you watch the series in production rather than aired order, the first music you would hear would be Kaplan!

Ahhhh, The Secret of NIMH! *ahem* sorry. That crazy spinning whirling cube music is just right for the “swashbuckling hard sci-fi” balance that Roddenberry wanted to hit. I love how Steiner’s Captain’s theme peeks in at the end of the “Captain-less teaser”, giving Kirk a big entrance.

(I wonder how early in the day they started recording these?)

Fesarius: Man I love how he gets rid of the xylophone pings and just lays on the theme with the brass. BIG ship!

Hideous Balok is one of my all-time faves. It was one of the first things I wanted to listen to when I got this box. Probably more for its use in Balance of Terror and City on the Edge of Forever.

Baby Balok. And that’s it!

Balance of Terror:
The Enteprise / In the Chapel. Boy Steiner really avoided the Courage Fanfare, didn’t he?

The Romulan Theme. Boy they used the daylights out of this thing in later seasons, didn’t they? And different composers, too. Also in Captain America! (Well, kinda.)

Damn, I love this episode!

Theme from Star Trek: Spoke too soon! OTOH, I looked at the liner notes and this is the first time Steiner used the theme. It’s actually the only time he uses it in the first season. But he made some lovely library cues out of it.

What Are Little Girls Made Of?
Not my favorite episode, but wow what a score! Andrea’s theme sounds much in the vein of Steiner’s other love themes but his music for Ruk sounds like nothing else he’d written before now. It still blows me away when I realize that they are THE SAME THEME!


And now Mr. Hatch’s library cues. (I gather these were probably NOT recorded on 9/20, but what can you do?)

Fairly generic, but using the Courage theme, so that’s nice. Humoresque: Was this used anywhere other than City on the Edge of Forever? That is it’s definitive moment, I think.

Well, that was quite a day. I can’t believe there isn’t any more until November!

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)


The Corbomite Maneuver. This would have been a much better series opener than The Man Trap


The producers agreed with you, but those damned effects took so long, it pushed the episode back 10 weeks.

Humoresque: Was this used anywhere other than City on the Edge of Forever?

Yup, Shore Leave after Spock tricks Kirk into taking a break. I'm pretty sure Tomorrow is Yesterday used it as well.

Sad we have to wait until November, I'm enjoying reading the feedback!

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

FRIDAY'S CHILD, followed by CATSPAW. Best all-around listening program in the set.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

It just occurred to me that "production order" has nothing to do with when the episodes were READY to air, if Corbomite wasn't even scored until two weeks after Man Trap aired.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 6:46 PM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

Three short but sweet Steiner classics on Disc 3. If I may.....

  • The Corbomite Maneuver

    Track 30 - If you can get dizzy in outer space, this music will do it. Fade out to main titles.

    Track 31 - I understand Steiner didn't have visuals to work with but you'd never know it listening to his great music. Just fits perfectly into the picture.

    Track 32 - Very similar to track 30. More spinning blurry cube visuals.

    Track 33 - A couple of seconds of grinding organ music is missing at the beginning here, then we're treated to that massive sound of the Fesarius' arrival. I love the ending where Sulu reduces magnification and we see the whole ship on screen. The music says they're in trouble.

    Track 34 - Cool music as we see Hideous Balok.

    Track 35 - Music for Baby Balok. It was tracked into other episodes to represent children like the kids in Miri and the Horta eggs in Devil in the Dark.

  • Balance of Terror

    Track 36 - 23rd century wedding bells.

    Track 37 - Romulan Agitato, curiously not used in this episode but tracked into the fire scene in The Alternative Factor.

    Track 38 - Space is a lonely place. The music says it all.

    Track 39 - Uh-Oh, Romulans look like Vulcans!

    Track 40 - Courage fanfare and the menace theme. MY JUDGEMENT PREVAILS!

    Track 41 - Adapted (more) effectively in Mirror, Mirror.

  • What Are Little Girls Made Of?

    Track 42 - Ruk is one scary lookin' dude. The music makes him scarier.

    Track 43 - On the other hand, Andrea is one fine lookin' piece of android ass.

    Track 44 - A classic Steiner action track here, tracked into numerous episodes including third season episodes Requiem For Methuselah and The Tholian Web.

    Track 45 - Ruk saves Kirk. More Kirk/Andrea lovey doveyness. Who could blame him?


    Until next time---------------smile

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     Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 6:58 PM   
     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

    "Cube Radiation" is one of my favorite ST cues. Back when Star Trek: Voyager was a going concern, I used to dream up hectic spaceflight scenes that could be scored with it. As a matter of fact, let's never mention that again.

     
     Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 7:40 PM   
     By:   ST-321   (Member)



    Track 35 - Music for Baby Balok. It was tracked into other episodes to represent children like the kids in Miri and the Horta eggs in Devil in the Dark.



    and the glow panel in The Return of the Archons.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 8:52 PM   
     By:   chris123   (Member)

    this is some of the best music in trek, even though these scores are really just a couple themes each, I'm sure the tracked stuff balanced it.

    corbomite is a back and forth between what I'll call the "cube theme" and thee "balok theme"

    the cube theme gets passed from instrument group to instrument group and high to low here and is suitably disorienting. I'd love to hear this with some drastic 5.1 separation so it could swirl around the room! maybe in the future with crazy sound tech! I really like around the 42 second mark of "space cube" when the horns get to do big jump horn hunting calls.

    the balok theme is best represented for me in "fesarius approaches" which has great cello.


    "the enterprise" is one of my favorite cues (and now I know why it sounds so familiar!), but it is attached to a pretty clunky rendition of the bridal march. I wouldn't be surprised if he was asked to include it and didn't feel like doing much work on it.

    what can be said about the romulan theme. one of the greats. I wish they had worked it into the score of the 2009 movie for some of the romulan scenes.

    big ruk is great, but really, growling cello plus timpani is all I need. I like that occasionally the ruk/andrea theme is actually played on the timpani! listen closely to the very beginning of ruk protect.

     
     Posted:   Oct 3, 2013 - 1:10 PM   
     By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

    I honestly can't stop listening to this set. It's been almost 10 months since it hit my porch and I don't go more than one or two days - at most - without running some of it. Fricking nuts! So much joy in these discs.

     
     Posted:   Oct 3, 2013 - 1:35 PM   
     By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

    I honestly can't stop listening to this set. It's been almost 10 months since it hit my porch and I don't go more than one or two days - at most - without running some of it. Fricking nuts! So much joy in these discs.

    Yeah, there's so much new stuff. I put Where No Man Has Gone Before on yesterday and I thought “You know, I used to play the GNP disc all the time. How come I don’t listen to this now?”

    Still can’t get into third season so much.

     
     Posted:   Oct 3, 2013 - 7:52 PM   
     By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

    If anything, I listen to Where No Man more because it's finally complete and isn't as shrill as the original album. I actually find myself gravitating to the 3rd season Fred Steiner scores more than his second season music. I know Bob Justman preferred Steiner to everyone else, I am over the moon for Sol Kaplan's two scores and put him to the top of the list. Not a single "skip it" cue in either of them.

     
     Posted:   Oct 3, 2013 - 9:36 PM   
     By:   ST-321   (Member)



    Still can’t get into third season so much.


    Try Elaan of of Troyius.

     
     Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 5:04 PM   
     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

    Try Elaan of of Troyius.

    I'd say the cream of the third season is

    The Paradise Syndrome
    Elaan of Troyius
    Spock's Brain
    The Empath

    which is not to say that's all there is.

     
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