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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: POLTERGEIST II: THE OTHER SIDE from FSM?    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3       Last Post   Posted:   Feb 24, 2013 - 11:47 AM     By:   Francis   (Member) There are many standout cues in PII; like Mutant said the opener "The Power" is such a great & lengthy cue, introducing Taylor's theme which is one of the highlights of the score. "They're Back" is the choir mayhem I love from Goldsmith and I love how they re-used it for the finale, I wish they had more budget to execute Goldsmith's original intent (most likely scored to special effects insert here frames), but it's obvious they didn't have enough special effects done and had to rush the other side sequence. "The Smoke" is very spiritual and noble. I like the return of the Cuesta Verde theme before the Freelings go to battle and the "Reaching Out" cue wraps all the themes up very nicely. I prefer listening to this score over the first Poltergeist partly because it is less complex and partly because of the wealth of themes, this is an example where Goldsmith created/re-used themes for lots of characters and even has them compete with each other or shift seamlessly between them. I also love the spiritual/religious tone that is so different in this score from the previous one; the catholic approach & choir are now catering the bad guy and the free spirit/alternative material guides the good guys. Bit simplified but it's such a contrast from the previous score. The score gets a lot of flack for Jerry's synths being present, but IMO they are used to great effect and don't dominate the orchestra, but rather enhance it.    Posted:   Feb 24, 2013 - 1:11 PM     By:   Ross1972   (Member) PII is easily one of my favorite Goldsmith scores. And while I won't argue if it is a technically "better" score than the original, I will say that for me, it is so much more enjoyable to listen to.    Posted:   Feb 24, 2013 - 3:30 PM     By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member) The Snowmobiles cue is indeed brilliant,that,s why some short cues are so important. Yes and they are the reason why i listen back to this score from time to time despite the fact i really don't fancy the synth stuff at all. And the DeLuxe edition is a huge listening improvement over the album i had only listened to a couple of times prior to the DeLuxe release.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 9:37 AM     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member) double post    Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 10:38 AM     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member) How did Omen II get into this discussion of Poltergeist II? (Not that I'm complaining or anything, I really like both.) I think the reason some people have trouble liking Poltergeist II is that it has more in common with Omen II than it does with Poltergeist! Heavier synth use, plus the heavy choir use, yet it's lacking the grandeur and magic of the original. It's a *very* different score, even though it has some thematic material in common. I like them both (though the original is clearly the classic). Yavar    Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 11:25 AM     By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member) I have purchased this score four times: the short Intrada LP, the short Intrada CD, the long Intrada CD, and the still-longer Varese CD. And I have not enjoyed it in any incarnation. I think I'm done with this one. What made you continue buying music you didn't like?    Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 12:20 PM     By:   SchiffyM   (Member) I have purchased this score four times: the short Intrada LP, the short Intrada CD, the long Intrada CD, and the still-longer Varese CD. And I have not enjoyed it in any incarnation. I think I'm done with this one. What made you continue buying music you didn't like? My love of Goldsmith. And an unhealthy obsession. I kept thinking that maybe I was just missing something. I was wrong. For me.    Posted:   Feb 25, 2013 - 6:38 PM     By:   rickO   (Member) Just a heads up ... I did send Douglass Fake a polite e-mail in regards to Poltergeist II. I asked him why Goldsmith left out those 4 cues on the Intrada expanded edition (Scary Vision, Scary Nightmare Friendly Voice, and The Bottle) and he didn't really say. I also asked him if Intrada would think to revisit Poltergeist II just as they had for First Blood, but he said it would be economically unfeasible due to licensing expenses from MGM and the fact they have already done it twice. He also stated that the Varese version would make it even less viable for them to release it a fourth time. But he did say "perhaps some day down the road but not at this time." I really love this score and have always wanted a complete release. But I admit that the Varese CD is very decent. But here in good fun are all of the cues (as far as I know). I have notated those cues which are labeled differently on various albums as well as what the unreleased cues consist of. The Power Things - This cue was titled as "The Mall' on the Intrada limited edition. Late Call - This cue contains the "phone ring effect" on each release EXCEPT the Intrada limited edition. (Also of note: this track consists of two separate cues heard in the film: Late Call and Diane's Memories of her mom). Scary Vision - unreleased. Basically a quick stinger of a motif heard in "Rebirth" from the first Poltergeist followed by a pensive keyboard melody. Scary Nightmare - unreleased. From what I remember this is an orchestra variation of the hymn chant, very violent but brief cue. They're Back Friendly Voice - unreleased. A very nice take on the Grandma Jess theme; from what I remember this cue focuses on the counterpoint section of the theme. Butterflies The Visitor - This cue was included on the Varese Deluxe edition and can only be found there. There is a diabolical church organ and really creepy choral effects in this cue! Wild Braces - This cue was called "Dental Problems" on the Intrada limited edition. Leave Us Alone - This cue was called "The Plan" on the Intrada limited edition. The Varese Deluxe edition added the brief suspense cue as Diane greets Tangina at the front door. This small tag was missing from the Intrada limited. The Smoke The Bottle - unreleased. This has creepy vocals and a lonely touch of Carol Ann's Theme ... basically more of the same can be found in The Worm. If I remember right, "The Bottle" and "the Worm" segue together. The Worm - This track is actually two cues combined into one long set piece. On the Intrada limited edition, this was called "The Worm/Vomit Creature." Back to Cuesta Verde Reaching Out Carol Ann's Theme So all in all, the complete score is about 65 mins long (not including any alternates). -Rick O.    Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 10:12 AM     By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member) How did Omen II get into this discussion of Poltergeist II? OH-MY-GOD! Yavar, I'm really confused and sorry about that : i didn't realize till now you were actually discussing POLTERGEIST II and not THE OMEN II! I don't even want to know how this happened... Sorry again Yavar.    Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 11:05 AM     By:   Francis   (Member) Great list RickO, I take it the Friendly Voice - unreleased cue is from the scene in the diner? The short Bottle cue indeed segues into "The Worm" track, I always wondered why they didn't include it as it's basically the start of that sequence.    Posted:   Feb 26, 2013 - 5:39 PM     By:   rickO   (Member) Great list RickO, I take it the Friendly Voice - unreleased cue is from the scene in the diner? The short Bottle cue indeed segues into "The Worm" track, I always wondered why they didn't include it as it's basically the start of that sequence. Yup, Friendly Voice is from that scene. Doug Fake verified the names of those 4 cues as well. -Rick O.    Posted:   Feb 28, 2013 - 9:26 AM     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member) So frustrating that Varese didn't just release the complete score when they had the chance (their "Deluxe Edition" added very little onto what Intrada had already made available in their expanded edition, anyway). Oh well. Maybe this way when the score starts going for a little more on the secondary market we'll get a truly definitive version from LLL with great liner notes...maybe they'll even have Lukas produce it, to go with his definitive release of the original on FSM. Yavar    Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:22 PM     By:   rickO   (Member) Bump Thanks Kritzerland for making the definitive Poltergeist II happen!    Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:59 PM     By:   haineshisway   (Member) Bump Thanks Kritzerland for making the definitive Poltergeist II happen! BTW, since many people in this thread were mentioning alternates - there aren't any.     General Discussion: POLTERGEIST II: THE OTHER SIDE from FSM?    << < 1 2 3  >   Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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