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 Posted:   Aug 2, 2017 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

So wot’s the overall consensus in royal retrospect on Marvel’s Epic experiment?

The consensus in my neck of the woods started with "Awesoooome!" and ended with "They're ending it? NOOOOOO!!!" (That also applied to the start/end of Epic Illustrated, which is where the comics line was derived.)

Their rationalization was "Well, if we have Epic Comics, we don't need Epic Illustrated any longer." Which was BS, of course. Dwindling sales? That I can understand. But it was an outstanding complement to Heavy Metal, and often featured better stories (that were original and not taken from European creators and painfully serialized in 4-5 page "episodes").

I loved the Epic Comics line. I'm a Metamorphosis Odyssey fanboy. That's Jim Starlin's baby. It started in the pages of Epic Illustrated, continued with the standalone b/w graphic novel The Price (which detailed the origin of the warlock, Syzygy Darklock), which was published concurrently, and from there we got Dreadstar (Marvel Graphic Novel #3), which focused on Vanth Dreadstar, the saga's central character.

Epic Comics introduced the Dreadstar ongoing title. It worked fine (with less "adult" content) for many issues, but inevitably changes started happening to the characters, not always for the better. Vanth's power was converted from his "laser sword" to his body, and his costume went from hooded space pirate to a more colorful "looks like he could hang with Star-Lord" garb. Eventually, the title went to First Comics (after Epic Comics folded), and Jim continued to write but not draw it. That's where I got off. But what a run!

Epic Comics did some other cool stuff (you mentioned The Bozz Chronicles, which was smartly written and elegantly drawn), but this is the other title I latched on to. From the always-arse-kicking team of writer Doug Moench and uber-artist Paul Gulacy...



 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2017 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Quick thoughts:

Joan Lee was a lovely-looking lady, even in her advanced age. I love that she just told Stan to, for lack of a better phrase, "just do it" and write comics...my childhood would not have been as bearable without old Smiley's comic creations. I honestly cannot express my gratitude enough for the guys and gals of comic creatordom.

How is that "Last" Galactus story? I'd like to read it...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2017 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Yay verily, truth be told, Effendi:




so doth we

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2017 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Buckler did the cover of the first issue of Fantastic Four I remember buying, issue #166, which was a Hulk-Thing donnybrook; a fine fine way to get introduced to the FF.

While this belongs over on the DC thread, I must report that I have read several issues of WORLD'S FINEST with some nice work by Rich Buckler and the great Dick Giordano.

I have more Buckler in my comic collection than I thought. smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Killer Frank Brunner original art posted on today's Diversions.

Those amazing Man-Thing & Doctor Strange covers...whew!

http://diversionsofthegroovykind.blogspot.com/

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2017 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

smile smile







wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2017 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

oops

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2017 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



Aside from Frank Miller, there aren’t many 2nd Generation Marvel Masters
whose accumulative output, impact and influence that rival Messrs. Kirby and Ditko.



HE'S one of 'em.



What says FSM Assembled about this profoundly talented



(yet no less persistently polarizing) Artist?



 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2017 - 12:00 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

I am a big fan of Byrne's art, particularly his work from the '70s and '80s. His work with Claremont on X-Men is probably my all time favorite work of his, but he also did some excellent work with Fantastic Four, Marvel Team-Up, Avengers, and many other titles. In fact, I am hard pressed to think of any Marvel character in existence before 2000 that he didn't draw.

In X-Men he drew one of my favorite cliffhangers of all:



He also did some great work with the Fantastic Four, including its unofficial fifth member:



He also left his mark on Captain America, Avengers, and many others. I haven't been as fond of his later work, although I really liked the Captain America/Batman cross-over he did.

For the distinguished competition, his work rebooting Superman was my Superman, so he definitely influenced how I saw the character and his supporting cast.

These days he mostly seems to do commission work. It is a shame Marvel and DC don't seem to have any interest doing cross-overs anymore, as I would love to read the story inspiring this splash page:

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2017 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

My admiration for John Byrne's work (pre-1986) is plastered throughout this thread, so I'll just say that his run on Uncanny X-Men remain the most cherished comics of all the comics I have ever read. Everything else was mortal, but still of exceptional quality.

Claremont-Byrne-Austin: The very best.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2017 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I love that Tyros-Doctor Doom three-parter that eventually led to the controversial "Trial of Galactus" story! The Tyros story made me a Silver Surfer fan.

Some seemingly forgotten Byrne work, which served as my introduction to this legendary comic creator was his brief stint on FF circa 1979-80. That would have been FF #209-217 or thereabouts. Byrnw was inked by Joe Sinnott, which, along with the epic throwback stories, were reminiscent of FF tales of old. "Marvelous" Marv Wolfman wrote the "Galactus-Sphinx" epic storyline and those FF comics are some of the most important comics I ever read. They changed my life, or at least influenced it forever more. wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2017 - 4:33 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Len Wein, creator of Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, Nightcrawler of the X-Men has died:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-len-wein-20170913-story,amp.html

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2017 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

smile smile









frown frown

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2017 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Glad you posted that pic of Len with Hugh Jackman. The cinematic Wolverine had kind words for him:

https://www.google.com/amp/comicbook.com/marvel/amp/2017/09/11/hugh-jackman-len-wein-wolverine/

And even better Jackman remarks here (scroll down):

http://comicbook.com/comics/2017/09/15/x-men-chris-claremont-reflects-len-wein-legacy/

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2017 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

A chronicle in a fascinating series about various Marvel luminaries "vs." Jim Shooter:

http://rsmwriter.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-jim-shooter-victim-files-len-wein.html

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2017 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)













The ONLIEST majestic creation that equaled the King’sGalactus”:



wink

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2017 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

oops

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2017 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)















 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2017 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)



We can think of few artists who made such an impact upon arrival in the 80s
as Bill Sienkiewicz,



whose incredibly abstract



but no less intensively inventive artwork



made one sit up immediately and ask, “Who the hell is THIS guy???”



His collaboration above – coming up next - answered that question for transcendent truly UNFORGETTABLE good.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2017 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

Bill also did very interesting and eye catching covers for Judge Dredd collections printed by Titan in the late 80s/90s. That's where I first saw his stuff.

 
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