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 Posted:   Jan 9, 2013 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- Phlox was right (evolution was occurring, and one species had to die out in order for the next to take over; it was wrong to interfere with nature)

Your argument would have some ground if that's how science worked. Unfortunately, it doesn't. After discovering that the species is suffering from a genetic problem, Archer asks how a cure can be found to which Phlox says-

"I still believe the Menk immunity could be the key to a cure."

The episode already established that the Valakians and Menk are so different that they can't even breed with each other, yet Phlox thinks that the Menk immunity system might lead to a cure for the Valakians. Kind of a weird theory when you consider the fact that YOU CAN'T HAVE AN IMMUNITY TO A GENETIC DISEASE FROM A DIFFERENT SPECIES. This even violates Star Trek logic where we have humans being able to breed with species on other sides of the galaxy (Vulcan, Klingon, Betazoid and even the Q), but these two humanoid species on the same planet are incompatible. If these two species are that much different, using one to cure the other genetically would be like trying to fix your Nintendo Entertainment System by dissecting an iPad.

Even the whole "We can't give them warp drive" argument is flawed. They actually think that this species who are willing to send out their own people in non-warp ships to find help isn't worthy of knowing how to create warp capable ships. Remember what First Contact established? The Vulcans were willing to bring Humanity further into the stars simply because humanity had invented Warp Drive even though they had just finished a war that killed 600 million of their own kind and the man who invented it was a drunk hobo living in a metal shack who only did it for money and sex. Yes, WE are the worthy ones, but the Valakians are not. Not because of their violent history (which there really isn't any), not because of their greedy ways (they do coexist with the Menk after all) and not because we don't understand them (we do). It's simply because they can't go to warp one.

And as for your "evolution was occurring" point, let me give you something to think about. Evolution does not evolve a species into extinction. A species evolves to AVOID extinction. Evolution is not about some intended path that a species will inevitably take. It's a complex form of adaption that changes depending on the environment a species is in. The way this episode treats evolution is the exact opposite of what evolution does, since a species that does not of adapt to it's environment will eventually cause it to go extinct.

And the reason these characters are so incredibly stupid in accepting this is because we are dealing with two species who ARE COEXISTING with one another. There is no "One race will live, one race will die no matter the choice" type of dilemma. It's all "Let one race die out, or let them continue to coexist". And our enlightened heroes decide it is better for a species to die out than coexist with a different species that they are coexisting with already.

And you gotta love how Phlox asks Archer that if some aliens gave the Neanderthals an evolutionary advantage, would Earth be much different? We're honestly supposed to ponder this question like Phlox may have a point...... except for that one little Voyager episode called Tattoo. I'm sure you remember that one where we learn that an alien species gave Native Americans an evolutionary advantage 45,000 years ago because they respected the land. Guess how well that turned out for the Native Americans?

Oh, and one other thing. A doctor's job is to interfere with nature. If you honestly think interfering with nature is wrong, tell anyone with a deadly, but curable symptom NOT to get a cure. After all, what's happening to them is natural. Why interfere with it?

Thanks to SFDebris for the points.

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2013 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- It sounds bad when you take it out of context the way you did. It was nothing more than a joke from Archer, who was just angry and frustrated over the current situation.

A joke..... Archer is so in love with his dog, he'll argue with Phlox when he suggests using experimental procedures that are meant to save him. Porthos is dying, Phlox is going to try something that hasn't been done before, and Archer is arguing with him. You think he's joking around when he says stuff like this?

"But if their carelessness has hurt Porthos, or god forbid ends up killing him, they're going to find out what being offended is all about."

"I'll tell you one thing sub-commander. If anything happens to Porthos, I'll be the one watering their alvera trees."

Can you honestly tell me that Archer, THE TRAINED DIPLOMAT is joking when he's standing over T'Pal like this?

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2013 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Penelope Pineapple   (Member)

And as for your "evolution was occurring" point, let me give you something to think about. Evolution does not evolve a species into extinction. A species evolves to AVOID extinction. Evolution is not about some intended path that a species will inevitably take. It's a complex form of adaption that changes depending on the environment a species is in. The way this episode treats evolution is the exact opposite of what evolution does, since a species that does not of adapt to it's environment will eventually cause it to go extinct.

This isn't exactly correct. Evolution can cause the extinction of a species.

From http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_teacherfaq.php#a3 (I underlined the main point):

"MISCONCEPTION: Evolution results in progress; organisms are always getting better through evolution.

CORRECTION: One important mechanism of evolution, natural selection, does result in the evolution of improved abilities to survive and reproduce; however, this does not mean that evolution is progressive — for several reasons. First, as described in a misconception below (link to "Natural selection produces organisms perfectly suited to their environments"), natural selection does not produce organisms perfectly suited to their environments. It often allows the survival of individuals with a range of traits — individuals that are "good enough" to survive. Hence, evolutionary change is not always necessary for species to persist. Many taxa (like some mosses, fungi, sharks, opossums, and crayfish) have changed little physically over great expanses of time. Second, there are other mechanisms of evolution that don't cause adaptive change. Mutation, migration, and genetic drift may cause populations to evolve in ways that are actually harmful overall or make them less suitable for their environments. For example, the Afrikaner population of South Africa has an unusually high frequency of the gene responsible for Huntington's disease because the gene version drifted to high frequency as the population grew from a small starting population. Finally, the whole idea of "progress" doesn't make sense when it comes to evolution. Climates change, rivers shift course, new competitors invade — and an organism with traits that are beneficial in one situation may be poorly equipped for survival when the environment changes. And even if we focus on a single environment and habitat, the idea of how to measure "progress" is skewed by the perspective of the observer. From a plant's perspective, the best measure of progress might be photosynthetic ability; from a spider's it might be the efficiency of a venom delivery system; from a human's, cognitive ability. It is tempting to see evolution as a grand progressive ladder with Homo sapiens emerging at the top. But evolution produces a tree, not a ladder — and we are just one of many twigs on the tree."

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2013 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

This isn't exactly correct. Evolution can cause the extinction of a species.

The Afrikaner population is not extinct. And to those who do suffer from Huntington's Disease will find that there are many doctors and groups out there who are working to treat those who have HD. And even if a cure was to be found, do you honestly believe that the doctors and scientists will start arguing over whether or not they should eradicate this disease since it is a natural occurrence? Maybe they shouldn't cure it. They don't know what the consequences will be. Better to leave those infected with the disease to their fate than to risk knowing what the world would be like if there was no more Huntington's Disease.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   welwynfilmstudios   (Member)

Paramount and CBS Home Entertainment have detailed the 6-disc Blu-ray release of Star Trek: Enterprise - Season Two. The series' second season stars Scott Bakula, Jolene Blalock, Connor Trinneer, Dominic Keating, John Billingsley, Anthony Montgomery and Linda Park, and arrives on August 20th.

Official Synopsis: In the 22nd century, a hundred years before James T. Kirk helmed the famous starship of the same name, Enterprise takes place in an era when interstellar travel is still in its infancy. Captain Jonathan Archer (Bakula) has assembled a crew of brave explorers to chart the galaxy on a revolutionary spacecraft: Enterprise NX-01. As the first human beings to venture into deep space, these pioneers experience the wonder and mystery of the final frontier as they seek out new life and new civilizations.

A centerpiece to the Season Two Blu-ray collection is the newly produced cast reunion feature, "In Conversation: The First Crew," which offers fans a look at an intimate and candid discussion with members of the main cast and recurring guest stars, who reveal their most memorable stories from the set and their favorite behind-the-scenes moments. The reunion is moderated by series co-creator/executive producer Brannon Braga.

Fans will also enjoy "Uncharted Territory," a three-part retrospective providing an inside look at the challenges faced by the writing staff and creators during the creative development of the second season, which ultimately inspired the controversial Xindi story-arc that kicks off in the season finale, "The Expanse." In addition, a collection of newly produced commentaries by cast and crew including John Billingsley ("Phlox"), writer/co-executive producer Chris Black and Mike & Denise Okuda, among others, round out the set.

The Blu-ray edition of Season Two will feature all 26 episodes and a DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 surround track. The 6-disc set breaks down as follows:


Disc One

Episodes

Shockwave, Part II
Carbon Creek
Minefield
Dead Stop

Special Features:

Audio Commentary by Chris Black and Mike & Denise Okuda on "Carbon Creek" (New!)
Deleted Scene from "Minefield" (SD)
Audio Commentary by Michael Sussman and Phyllis Strong (2005) on "Dead Stop"
In Conversation: The First Crew (HD, New!)
Season 2 Promo (SD)
Archival Mission Logs:


Enterprise Moments: Season Two (SD)
Enterprise Profile: Jolene Blalock (SD)

Disc Two

Episodes

A Night In Sickbay
Marauders
The Seventh
The Communicator
Singularity

Special Features

Deleted Scenes from "A Night In Sickbay" (SD)
Archival Mission Log: Inside A Night In Sickbay (SD)

Disc Three

Episodes

Vanishing Point
Precious Cargo
The Catwalk
Dawn
Stigma

Special Features

Deleted Scene from "Dawn" (SD)
Text Commentary by Mike & Denise Okuda (2005) on "Stigma"
Deleted Scene from "Stigma" (SD)
Stigma – Archival Interviews (SD)
Archival Mission Log: Photo Gallery (SD)

Disc Four

Episodes

Cease Fire
Future Tense
Canamar
The Crossing
Judgment

Special Features

Deleted Scene from "Cease Fire" (SD)
Archival Mission Logs
Shooting "Future Tense" (SD)
Enterprise Secrets (SD)

Disc Five

Episodes

Horizon
The Breach
Cogenitor
Regeneration
First Flight

Special Features


Audio Commentary by John Billingsley and Bonita Friedericy on "Regeneration" (New!)
Audio Commentary with Chris Black and Mike and Denise Okuda on "First Flight" (New!)
Audio Commentary by Michael Sussman and Phyllis Strong (2005) on "Regeneration"
Text Commentary by Mike & Denise Okuda (2005) on "First Flight"
Archival Mission Logs
Levar Burton – Star Trek Director (SD)
Enterprise Outtakes (SD)

Disc Six

Episodes

Bounty
The Expanse

Special Features

Deleted Scenes from "The Expanse" (SD)
Documentary: "Uncharted Territory" (HD, New!)

Part One: Destination Unknown
Part Two: First Crew
Part Three: Course Correction

Archival Mission Logs
NX-01 File 04
NX-01 File 05
NX-01 File 06

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=11786

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2013 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   welwynfilmstudios   (Member)

January 7, 2014 is the stardate street date for Star Trek: Enterprise - Season 3 on high-def Blu-ray Disc. This 6-disc collection of 24 episodes, includes exclusive brand new, never before seen bonus content as well as bonus material previously seen on the DVDs. Here's a copy-and-paste of what CBS/Paramount lists for special features:
Commentary by David A. Goodman, Chris Black and Connor Trinner
Commentary by David A. Goodman and Chris Black
Commentary by David Livingston, David A. Goodman and Chris Black
Text Commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda
Commentary by Chris Black and André Bormanis
Commentary by Mike & Denise Okuda
Text Commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda
Commentary by Mike DeMeritt
Commentary by Mike Sussman and Tim Gaskill
Featurette: In A Time Of War (HD)
Commentary by Manny Coto and Connor Trinneer
Commentary by Manny Coto
Featurette: Temporal Cold War: Declassified (HD)
Featurette: Archival Mission Logs (SD)
Deleted Scenes


http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Star-Trek-Enterprise-Season-3/19073

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2013 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

It is a show of mixed rewards for sure. The good ones are really pretty good.
You have a lot of episodes that just sort of lay there on the screen, usually the more dialogue based character shows in the 'bottle' were pretty darn boring.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2013 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   welwynfilmstudios   (Member)



It won't hit stores until April 2014 -- and Season Three hasn't even been released yet -- but CBS has just published the trailer for the fourth season of Star Trek: Enterprise on Blu-ray!

The special release will come with its very own exclusive set of special features similar to the first two seasons released in 2013, including "Before Her Time: Decommissioning Enterprise," a four-part documentary comprised of cast and crew interviews, and "In Conversation: Writing Star Trek Enterprise," a 90-minute writing staff reunion.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/12/enterprise-season-4-coming-april-1-2014/

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2013 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

This isn't the early-2000s anymore. In these days where you get a season set for less than $50, I don't know why Paramount insists on making their Trek seasons so expensive. I can see the new TNGs being above average price, due to the digital overhaul, but even the Enterprise DVDs were around $80-90, a ridiculous price for seasons even at the time those came out. The DVDs look good, so they'll suffice until the Blu-Rays lower in price, if they ever do.

 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2013 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

This isn't the early-2000s anymore. In these days where you get a season set for less than $50, I don't know why Paramount insists on making their Trek seasons so expensive. I can see the new TNGs being above average price, due to the digital overhaul, but even the Enterprise DVDs were around $80-90, a ridiculous price for seasons even at the time those came out. The DVDs look good, so they'll suffice until the Blu-Rays lower in price, if they ever do.

During Black Friday I was looking for some bargains on various season sets. Even with the substantial discounts I passed on everything because at the end of the day I felt the sale price was what the actual price should be on these things. It's not a bargain at all.

 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2013 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I guess this never materialized into anything?

https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekEnterpriseSeason5NetflixCampaign

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2014 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   welwynfilmstudios   (Member)

CBS Home Entertainment and Paramount Home Media Distribution have officially announced and detailed their upcoming Blu-ray release of Star Trek: Enterprise - Season Four. The release will be available for purchase on April 29th.

A special highlight to the collection is "In Conversation: Writing Star Trek Enterprise," an exclusive, 90-minute writing staff reunion special. The compelling discussion includes series creator and executive producer Brannon Braga, along with Mike Sussman, André Bormanis, David Goodman, Chris Black, Phyllis Strong, and Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, all detailing some of the series' most fascinating behind-the-scenes stories. Plus, fans will receive special insight on the creation of the final episodes of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE with a newly produced, four-part documentary "Before Her Time: Decommissioning Enterprise," which includes more in-depth interviews with the cast and crew.

Featuring all 22 episodes from the final season of the series, STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE stars Scott Bakula, Jolene Blalock, Connor Trinneer, Dominic Keating, Linda Park, Anthony Montgomery and John Billingsley, and follows the thrilling adventures of the first Earth-built vessel capable of breaking the Warp 5 barrier.

STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE – SEASON FOUR on Blu-ray will be available in 1080p with English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, German 5.1 Dolby Digital, French Stereo Surround and Japanese Stereo Surround. The discs also include English SDH, French, German, Japanese and Dutch subtitles. The Blu-ray is Not Rated in the U.S. and rated PG in Canada. It will be available for the suggested retail price of $130.00 U.S. and $150.00 Canada. The disc breakdown is as follows:

Disc One:
•Episodes
Storm Front, Part I
Storm Front, Part II
Home
Borderland

•Special Features
Deleted Scene on "Storm Front" (SD)
Extended Scene and Script Gallery: Original Editing on "Home" (SD)
Archival Mission Logs:
Enterprise Moments: Season Four (SD)

Disc Two:
•Episodes
Cold Station 12
The Augments
The Forge
Awakening

•Special Features
?Episode Commentary by Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens and Mike & Denise Okuda on "The Forge" – NEW!
?Text Commentary by Mike & Denise Okuda on "The Forge" (2005)

Disc Three:
• Episodes
Kir'Shara
Daedalus
Observer Effect
Babel One

•Special Features
Episode Commentary by Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens and Mike & Denise Okuda on "Observer Effect" – NEW!

Disc Four:
•Episodes
United
The Aenar
Affliction
Divergence

• Special Features
Episode Commentary by Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens and David Livingston on "United" – NEW!
Deleted Scene on "The Aenar" (SD)

Disc Five:
•Episodes
Bound
In A Mirror, Darkly, Part I
In A Mirror, Darkly, Part II
Demons

•Special Features
Episode Commentary by Mike Sussman and Tim Gaskill on "In A Mirror, Darkly, Part I" (2005)
Episode Commentary by James L. Conway, Mike Sussman and Mike & Denise Okuda on "In A Mirror, Darkly, Part I" – NEW!

Episode Commentary by Mike Sussman and Tim Gaskill on "In A Mirror, Darkly, Part II" (2005)
Text Commentary by Mike & Denise Okuda on "In A Mirror, Darkly, Part II" (2005)
Episode Commentary by Connor Trinneer and Dominic Keating on "Demons"– NEW!
Deleted Scene from "In A Mirror, Darkly, Part II" (SD)
Archival Mission Logs
Inside the Mirror Episodes (SD)

Disc Six:
•Episodes
Terra Prime
These Are The Voyages

•Special Features
Episode Commentary by Connor Trinneer and Dominic Keating on "Terra Prime"– NEW!
Episode Commentary by Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens and Tim Gaskill "Terra Prime" (2005)
Text Commentary by Mike & Denise Okuda "These Are The Voyages" (2005)
Before Her Time: Decommissioning Enterprise (HD) – NEW!
Part One: New Voices
Part Two: Memorable Voyages
Part Three: Final Approach
Part Four: End of an Era
In Conversation – Writing Star Trek: Enterprise (HD) – NEW!
Archival Mission Logs: (SD)
Visual Effects Magic
Links to the Legacy
Enterprise Secrets
That's a Wrap!
Enterprise Goes to the Dogs
Westmore's Aliens: Creating Dr. Phlox and Beyond
Outtakes
Photo Gallery
NX-01 File 10

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=13557

 
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