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 Posted:   May 22, 2015 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   the_limited_edition   (Member)

Three months of recording? What LUXURY! big grin

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2015 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

My worry is that Williams (by mandate of the producers, who seem to be milking the nostalgia factor fairly hard) would OVERUSE classic themes, so I'm glad to see that it doesn't appear to be the case.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

....and remember Kiddies...John Williams still writes a score with a No.2 Pencil and a Piano. 5-7 minutes a day.

... and plays Super Bombad Racing for 23 hours and 53-55 minutes, because sleep is for droids.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Henry Jones   (Member)

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/05/john-williams-star-wars-the-force-awakens

Williams says he will quote some of the familiar themes!


My hopes are high he'd revisit Brother & Sister theme from ROTJ, one of my favorite themes from the SW saga...

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

My hopes are high he'd revisit the Luke and Leia theme from ROTJ, one of my favorite themes from the SW saga...

Indeed, but Return of the Jedi wasn't structured to bring out that part of the narrative. One scene with Luke and Leia on an Ewok village catwalk was all we got. After the prequels, that part of the story will be easier to meld into the action.

And, since the Star Wars saga scores are, in their best incarnations, a regime built on Wagnerian leitmotifs, we should expect this to return...if John Williams still really has the chops to pull it off.

His efforts in Jedi and the prequel trilogy really weren't as Wagnerian as Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, but succeed because of sheer compositional dazzle. Maybe JW can pull a last masterwork out of his hat for this trilogy, though it'll never be like the late-'70s/early-'80s ever again. You just can't, it seems, regurgitate that kind of inspired scoring.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Captain Future 2   (Member)

You can never again see a film with the eyes of a ten year old. Nor will film music ever again make as magical an impression as it did back then. We should not burden this film with expecting it to time warp us back in our childhood. If today's children watch the film with wide eyes and open mouth I'll be happy.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

The Star Wars story seems to be in great hands with J.J. Abrams! Like others have stated, it's so amazing to see a composer being held as one of the key creative components to a film. Without John Williams distinct sound, I don't believe Star Wars would have had the same mystical feel.

I am really excited for this.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

The Star Wars story seems to be in great hands with J.J. Abrams!

Don't let anyone on this board hear you say that! You might be cast out as a vapid outsider, daring to dream of whiz-bang sensibility being put back into the premiere whiz-bang franchise! wink

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

The Star Wars story seems to be in great hands with J.J. Abrams!

Don't let anyone on this board hear you say that! You might be cast out as a vapid outsider, daring to dream of whiz-bang sensibility being put back into the premiere whiz-bang franchise! wink


Hahaha, well looking at it objectively, he seems to be sticking true to what the original trilogy was. Also, from what I can tell, he's giving John Williams a lot of freedom just to be himself. Abrams is a fan boy like the rest of us. It's usually the directors who have no prior attachments to the originals that end up completely destroying a series.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Hahaha, well looking at it objectively, he seems to be sticking true to what the original trilogy was. Also, from what I can tell, he's giving John Williams a lot of freedom just to be himself. Abrams is a fan boy like the rest of us. It's usually the directors who have no prior attachments to the originals that end up completely destroying a series.

I agree Peter. And if you're able to take his Star Trek pictures at value (because arguably they might have destroyed that series) then his duology is a helluva show reel for what he can do with new characters in the Star Wars universe.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2015 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

Hahaha, well looking at it objectively, he seems to be sticking true to what the original trilogy was. Also, from what I can tell, he's giving John Williams a lot of freedom just to be himself. Abrams is a fan boy like the rest of us. It's usually the directors who have no prior attachments to the originals that end up completely destroying a series.

I agree Peter. And if you're able to take his Star Trek pictures at value (because arguably they might have destroyed that series) then his duology is a helluva show reel for what he can do with new characters in the Star Wars universe.


There are those of us who still wouldn't have been impressed with Abrams' Star Trek movies even if we could see them as their own standalone sci-fi thrillers.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   GOLDSMITHDAKING   (Member)

Im actually worried about this film suffering from Superman Returns syndrome.

In other words, the director is a massive fan boy and is just making the movie as a rehash/remake/love letter to the original and has no intention of offering anything new.

Nicholas Meyer and JJ Abrams were not Trek fans but their movie entries in that franchise saved it each time.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

In other words, the director is a massive fan boy and is just making the movie as a rehash/remake/love letter to the original and has no intention of offering anything new.

Good thing auteur theory doesn't apply to massively overproduced films like this!

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2015 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

In other words, the director is a massive fan boy and is just making the movie as a rehash/remake/love letter to the original and has no intention of offering anything new.

I've been following the plot rumours for this movie and the skeleton of the film certainly sounds like a considerable rehash of elements of A New Hope and Return of the Jedi. That said, I've still been really jazzed by what I've seen of the film in the trailers. If we get something with strong direction and acting, even if it's wholly unoriginal, I'll probably be satisfied. Maybe that's a sad sign of the state of cinema, or my expectations for this franchise after the utterly dissapointing prequels, but that's where I'm at.

That said, while one unoriginal reboot film would be fine, I'm very concerned about potential long-time lack of creativity in this franchise after looking at the extent of the micromanagement and lack of artistic freedom in the Marvel Franchise and can easily see these movies along with the standalone films becoming something along those lines.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2015 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Recording Sessions began today at Sony in LA!

http://www.jwfan.com/?p=7761

Also, here's a cool new interview with Williams and some LA musicians about the score and its recording sessions.

g: http://im.afm.org/doc/AFM_IM/june-2015/2015060101/#18
t: http://www.afm.org/im/john-williams

So we know some of the players...

Jon Lewis trumpet, Andrew Bain horn, Heather Clark, flute, Louise Di'Tullio flute, Stephen Erdody cello.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)



That said, while one unoriginal reboot film would be fine, I'm very concerned about potential long-time lack of creativity in this franchise after looking at the extent of the micromanagement and lack of artistic freedom in the Marvel Franchise and can easily see these movies along with the standalone films becoming something along those lines.

Chris.


The problem with the MCU is that different studios own different aspects of Marvel. They're only just recognising how silly this is and how artisitically restrictive it is. The proof? Allowing Spider-Man to be part of the Civil War movie. Hopefully, this understanding will allow the MCU to recognise and begin to use Mutants, and add X-Men to the movies (without diluting the essence of the stories).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

I said this earlier..That Williams Wrote the Music for the Trailers...Many Doubted here...And I wish You Gurls..would relax about the rehash business...IT seems you Gurls are never happy about nothing. Usual Suspects. John Williams is Writing New Themes Also...Wow....

And One More Time....John Williams was never Sick. This all had to do with scheduling. Even on LSO Facebook Page...in March..The LSO was in LA...and John Williams was Conducting the LSO...and even the major players..said on their blog site...It was all about Scheduling...Nothing Else.

“With the film’s premiere still months away, recording sessions for The Force Awakens are just getting started, with the initial sessions slated for the first week of June. Williams tackled earlier recordings for both trailers.


First Class Musicians

A living, breathing score takes talented musicians to bring it to life. After six previous film soundtracks being recorded in the UK with the London Symphony Orchestra, The Force Awakens marks the first Star Wars soundtrack to be recorded on American shores, utilizing musicians from AFM Local 47. “With this new film, the schedule has evolved to the point that I’ll need to be working with the orchestra continuously for several months, and that’s obviously easier for me to do here in Los Angeles, than it would be in London.”

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

The problem with the MCU is that different studios own different aspects of Marvel. They're only just recognising how silly this is and how artisitically restrictive it is. The proof? Allowing Spider-Man to be part of the Civil War movie. Hopefully, this understanding will allow the MCU to recognise and begin to use Mutants, and add X-Men to the movies (without diluting the essence of the stories).

Boy, I had many problems with "Avengers: Age of Ultron," but exactly none of them were that there were too few superheroes.

http://www.theonion.com/video/the-onion-reviews-avengers-age-of-ultron-38524

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I said this earlier..That Williams Wrote the Music for the Trailers...Many Doubted here...And I wish You Gurls..would relax about the rehash business...IT seems you Gurls are never happy about nothing. Usual Suspects. John Williams is Writing New Themes Also...Wow....

Nice to see sexism is alive and well. Usual suspects, indeed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

Im actually worried about this film suffering from Superman Returns syndrome.

In other words, the director is a massive fan boy and is just making the movie as a rehash/remake/love letter to the original and has no intention of offering anything new.

Nicholas Meyer and JJ Abrams were not Trek fans but their movie entries in that franchise saved it each time.


Well considering SUPERMAN RETURNS and STAR TREK were directed by different people, there's no reason to worry.

 
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