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 Posted:   Sep 27, 2013 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I had the ultimate respect for Kim Novak when she turned her back on Hollywood to live life on her own terms.

Then I see a recent interview with her and she's done the same stoopid things to her face that all the twinks who stay in Hollywood do.

I'm really sorry I started watching this. I really thought she was smarter than this.

Sure, it's her face, but I don't want to look at it.

Sad.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

And you messed up her name. wink

But yes, the list of once-beautiful actresses who allow themselves to be ruined by those butchers is staggeringly long. I once looked up Barbara Hershey and wished to hell I hadn't.

As for all that plastic surgery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_of_the_Beholder

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 6:36 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

And you messed up her name. wink


Buzzed posting is drunk posting. Friends, don't let friends post drunk. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Seriously, though, I was all psyched to watch this and I just couldn't focus on the content because of her face. Maybe I'll watch it on Halloween.

Have any of them refused? I think that Catherine Deneuve may have been one of the last holdouts, but after seeing some recent pictures of her, I'm not so sure anymore.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Not only the mature ladies, many young girls still in their 20's are fracking up their beautiful faces.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Have any of them refused? I think that Catherine Deneuve may have been one of the last holdouts, but after seeing some recent pictures of her, I'm not so sure anymore.

The recent photo I saw of Lynda Day George made me think she hasn't had any work done.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Do a before and after photo search on Meg Ryan. But before you do don't say I didn't warn you.

She was once beautiful. And until recently she still had natural beauty even as she aged. Now her cheekbones, nose, and mouth all have that Jack Napier thing going on.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   fisch   (Member)

For guys, there's Mickey Rourke......

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Or, for that matter, Robert Redford....

Yuck.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Have any of them refused? I think that Catherine Deneuve may have been one of the last holdouts, but after seeing some recent pictures of her, I'm not so sure anymore.....


This is kind of a funny comment because of legends surrounding Catherine Deneuve and her presumed plastic surgery work.

It was said that quite some years ago Deneuve had very expensive and very specialized and very fine surgery by an extremely skilled European surgeon and that her entire face is supported on a precision under-the-skin mesh netting of very fine gold threads.

I can't quite imagine how this would be done, but I suppose if it had been tested properly, and the subject was willing to undergo it, it might be feasible. She certainly still looks incredibly well put together for her age. Of course, simple injections of Botox help the situation along, too.

One of the most recognized secrets of plastic surgery, understood by the older stars, is that you must find and pay for the very best, and conservative, surgeon you can, and then you must start surgeries BEFORE you need them, and then do very little each time right from the start. If you do these very minor little nips and tucks each year or two, you can maintain a look which everyone recognizes for years and years, instead of that sudden overall surgery in which you look like your skin has been stretched tightly over a form, your eyes are weirdly narrowed, and your mouth is---to quote the Cole Porter "Stereophonic Sound" song---ten feet wide.

Some plastic surgeries make the stars look like burn victims whose total facial skin surface has had to be replaced because of terrible damage.

But, eventually many of these outlandish surgeries "settle-in" and then the star looks good again for awhile until the next over-the-top surgery. I saw some shots recently and was surprised at how well Raquel Welch now looked at 73. It's obvious she's had surgery, but it
is very good and she still looks pretty much like herself.

But, beyond good minimal surgery on a regular basis, the best guarantee for looking great as you age is a great lighting cameraman. Unfortunately, that is much harder to find anymore than a great surgeon. (Barbra Streisand NEVER looked as good on film after one of the great lighting cameramen, and her favorite, Harry Stradling, Sr., died.)

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Just grow old already. It's the circle of life.

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)



Yeah, this doesn't look good at all, compared to what once she was (and actually what she was until late into the 1990s!). But, truth be told, there aren't any better looking 80 year olds, are there?

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)



Yeah, this doesn't look good at all, compared to what once she was (and actually what she was until late into the 1990s!). But, truth be told, there aren't any better looking 80 year olds, are there?


Who is that? Is that Meg Ryan? I rather someone age naturally than look like a freak from a horror film. Which is what plastic surgery does too most. Speaking of which, have any of you seen Daryl Hannah? It's horrifying. frown

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

I never liked her old face, so I don't care.

 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Still much better than these two:





Both of whom do remind me of the MAD cartoons of the great Mort Drucker.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Did any of you watch Kim's interview with Robert Osborne that has been playing on TCM? I thought it was wonderful and poignant. Her honesty came through and I must admit I shed a tear or two. I'm glad she's happy now.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Did any of you watch Kim's interview with Robert Osborne that has been playing on TCM? I thought it was wonderful and poignant. Her honesty came through and I must admit I shed a tear or two. I'm glad she's happy now.

This is what inspired this thread!!!!

I TRIED to watch it, but could not get past her FACE so I shut it off after about 2 minutes.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Did any of you watch Kim's interview with Robert Osborne that has been playing on TCM? I thought it was wonderful and poignant. Her honesty came through and I must admit I shed a tear or two. I'm glad she's happy now.

This is what inspired this thread!!!!

I TRIED to watch it, but could not get past her FACE so I shut it off after about 2 minutes.


Classy!

roll eyes

 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Why is it that when these guys and gals get extensive "remastering" they often end up with that same fish face look? Is that what they wanted? Is it considered the new ideal for beauty?

 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

And you messed up her name. wink

But yes, the list of once-beautiful actresses who allow themselves to be ruined by those butchers is staggeringly long. I once looked up Barbara Hershey and wished to hell I hadn't.


OMG didya ' see Hershey in BLACK SWAN????!!!
i RECENTLY SAW LEE gRANT ON SOMETHING AND SHE LOOKED SO HIDEOUS i TURNED IT OFF IMMEDIATELY
stop the madness!

BRm

 
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