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......BECAUSE THE BEST THING ABOUT THE RE-BOOT WAS SEEING ALL the original characters as young men and women. It was truly a delight to see the "origins' of all the characters
and made the film the success it deserved.
But re-watching it recently i was struck by the weakness'.
The action was good in spots, not so good in others. And ST isn't really about action anyway!
It had more of a INDY JONES feel than TREK. i AM AFRAID THE SEQUEL IS GOING TO BE FLAT OUT ACTION which would be a big mistake.
I do not see how they can get Nimoy into this one - it wasn't done that smoothly in the first one - which will be a loss.
I hope i am wrong, but the novelty of the first one will be gone and the new film will have to succeed or fail on the quality of the script.
here's hoping...
bruce
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I didn't like the STAR WARS influence at all. And the new Enterprise looks like the Dr Suess version to me. But I'm game for the sequel. What am I going to do, stay home?
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Dec 16, 2010 - 3:23 AM
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Francis
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I was watching Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country last night, and it amazed me that, for a movie that actually doesn't have much action, it was still more exciting and suspenseful than anything in Abrams' Star Trek.
Yeah, it's got some good pacing. I do think Star Trek can be heavy on the action and still have that sense of exploration. First Contact is basically Die Hard in space and having Alfre Woodard along for the ride, introducing the enterprise, the holodeck, that scene by the forcefield is just so great. Taking the action outside on the enterprise dish was for me the greatest moment in any Trek movie, because it was so fresh and made for a riveting action sequence on the big screen, even though it was zero gravity and basically slow mo for the majority of the scene. So I do think there is a place and time for it.
But the last Trek felt a little too "Empire Strikes Back" in the action sequences for me. I did like the chemistry between the characters.
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Well, not to tick off my fellow Trek fans, but the movie was never really aimed at us. Star Trek's core fanbase is not large enough to bring in the amount of money 2009's movie did. It was made to appeal to everyone else. The only place the opinion of this film is really divided is within Trek fandom. Everyone else pretty much liked it. "Wow, I didn't know Star Trek was that cool."
The next movie will be as big a hit for the same reason Transformers 2 was: lots of effects, young heroes making wisecracks, chicks in skimpy outfits, action action action. The story? Who cares? The last film had plot holes the size of Jupiter, but only Trekkies cared. And even a lot of them didn't. The fact that it's got a Star Wars slant only helped it reach a mass audience.
I enjoyed the film more than I expected. My opinion of it has faded with the move to the small screen, but there you go. This is Star Trek until JJ Abrams gets tired of it and moves on.
Nah, if the sequel fails, I'll be very surprised. Personally, I'll probably like it more since I wont have to see the Enterprise being built in Iowa, and Kirk being promoted from Cadet to starship captain. Everyone will already be in place, so there's less to annoy me. As for Nimoy, it was already pointed out that he is retired and done. Besides, he was only there to sell the "alternate timeline" fan masturbation. I'd have preferred a straight reboot, it would have avoided a few of those plot holes. If the film did anything positive, it was in keeping the original characters alive and revitalizing the interest in the concept. This, plus the redone SFX in the original series, has actually broadened interest. So, I guess it was pretty smart.
[edited to remove unfunny attempt at humor]
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Yeah, that was in bad taste. It was funnier in my head.
Sorry, I edited it accordingly.
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Well, not to tick off my fellow Trek fans, but the movie was never really aimed at us. Star Trek's core fanbase is not large enough to bring in the amount of money 2009's movie did. It was made to appeal to everyone else....
THAT IS IRONIC . BECAUSE ,IF I WASN'T A TREK FAN i probably wouldn't have liked it!
i just hope the next one isn't the 'generic summer blockbuster" that one poster called the first one
brm
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Dec 16, 2010 - 7:41 PM
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With a little sprinkling of ret-con fairy dust Abrams could just bring in some goofy twist like The Nexus and all would be well.
It reminds me of this bizarro idea I had to bring back Khan. I thought it was sad that the TNG movies ended off with such a pussy villain. "Shinzon"? Give me a break. Anyway, Picard needed a really good adversary and Khan fits the bill. Check this out:
After the 1701-E is finished it's repairs from the Scimitar battle, random reports start piling up about a mysterious ship raping and pillaging everything in sight. Picard is sent to investigate. Meanwhile, a small research office at Starfleet has been trying to collate the available data and learn where The Nexus came from. Shortly thereafter, a grunt intern runs breathlessly into a Commodore's office and gasps, "Sir! We've got it!"
The Commodore says, "Huh? Got what?".
Somewhat calmer, the intern says, "The Nexus, sir. We finished triangulating it's co-ordinates of origin."
"And...?"
"Sir, do you remember, from about 90 years ago... something called The Genesis Wave?"
Well, you can all connect the dots from here. 
Yo, Abrams! If you adapt this idea for the new sequel, you don't have to pay me... just give me a story credit! LOL
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