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 Posted:   Oct 23, 2013 - 10:54 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I know this board tilts pretty solidly to "CDs or nothing," with a relatively small minority admitting that they're fine with downloads.

Well, I'm having work done on my house. And I have to put everything in storage (mostly in the garage, happily) for a good eight months. And boxing up and moving my thousands of CDs? Not something I'm enjoying.

And honestly, what do they get me that lossless audio files on my hard drive don't?

I'm an honest guy (tediously so!), and so I buy these CDs dutifully and then rip them to my hard drive. And then they go away… potentially forever. Apparently, some of you display your CDs. Not me. I don't need anybody to see them, least of all me. I just want the music.

So as I move boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes of CDs into storage, I'm wondering what the point of all these silvery-plastic discs is.

I'm ready for a post-CD world!

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2013 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I would be cool in an all-digital world, if it weren't for lossy compression.....Lossless (like you) just fine, but yes (before anyone says) I can tell the difference, and I will not pay for lossy mp3's or any other codec.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2013 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

An all digital world wouldn't be so bad if everything was lossless, but it's not.

And the CD's provide back for the digital and vise versa. Accidents happen, computers get viruses, etc. I'd hate to lose my entire digital collection just because a nerd in his garage wanted to infest my PC with a virus.

There's pro's and con's to both, but I'll always have an affinity for the physical CD cases and how cool they look. Not to mention, popping the CD's into the stereo system and cranking up the volume.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Not another thread which will degenerate into a Physical Media -V- Downloads argument! This is clearly where the future lies...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22533522

...or maybe here, hi-fi fans...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24441979

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I love owning CDs, but I have to agree, for day-to-day playing they don't come out.

I'm ready for a post CD world too, although buying on CD is still my first choice.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 1:58 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

I love owning CDs, but I have to agree, for day-to-day playing they don't come out.

I'm ready for a post CD world too, although buying on CD is still my first choice.


Agreed.

I removed cassette tapes (I grew-up on and devoured them in their hundreds!) and vinyl (my youth, my adult-hood ... my past) from my life some years ago.

CDs were a revelation ... I didn't even know how to play the first one I bought!

And in near 30 years I've bought approx. 2,000 and yet, these days, I play 2 or 3 a month. But I still keep buying them. I've bought 5 download tracks and since replaced these with a much superior CD release.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Of course, an obvious answer is that soon enough we probably won't have any choice, CDs will go the way of the Dodo. As it is, I'm the only person amongst my friends, family and work colleagues who actually still buys CDs of any type. Everyone I know only downloads now (legally or not), many for the reasons Schiffy states. I get strange looks when I say I still buy them, and get the adage that the 90s have long gone. I have the feeling it is the tide that won't be turned. It's unrealistic to think CDs will continue to be manufactured in the long term.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Space.

Not the final frontier, but on my shelves.

For years I horded CDs, bought everything I was interested in. And then...

... I found out that I only listened and loved about half of it. Heck, even less.

And so I began to sell the others. I pared down my collection again and again to my absolute essentials.

That feels extremely good. The others I don´t miss.

Of course, I want to listen to new stuff and make discoveries. But I don´t buy CDs unless the artist is one of my heroes and deserves that attention. Everything else I download. It´s cheaper and I can delete it if I do not warm to it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   GOLDSMITHDAKING   (Member)

I will never stop buying cds until they stop making them.

And i take them out all the time to play them.

I have never bought an album digitally and do not plan to do so any time soon.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

I quite like this topicsmile

For last year I lost almost every joy in buying CD´s because of CUSTOMS OFFICE.
I know that customs office is doing what is legal but paying 20% VATS of final price with shipping charge for music CD´s is crime + add 5USD taken by POST as some kind of "holding" charge.
I even return package once, when the price of CD´s was about 20 cents over limit and with all customs and postal fees I would pay almost 30% of price of package.

For 30USD (1 limited ed. CD+shipping) it is another 11USD for customs and post.
Not very funny to pay it for every CD from US or Japan.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:33 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Running out of space. Easier to manage, fund etc digitally but get the handling of, the nice booklets better quality unless lossless

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Like many here, I buy CDs all the time. But I do what many other folks here do: I rip the CD (in lossless FLAC) and they go away essentially forever. Now, I'll admit it does look nice to have all those CDs on the shelf but really I'm the only one who is impressed since most other people I know would never devote so much space to such obscure music.

I love having all my music digitally.

The ability to create this huge library of music and alter it in any way possible, transfer the music anywhere at fast speeds, create personal albums, edit albums to my preference, play music almost anywhere instantly, well all of that is just wonderful and I would never go back to standard physical media.

But until lossy compression remains the norm, I will continue buying CDs.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

If it was an easy choice amazon wouldn't have autorip

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Like many here, I buy CDs all the time. But I do what many other folks here do: I rip the CD (in lossless FLAC) and they go away essentially forever. Now, I'll admit it does look nice to have all those CDs on the shelf but really I'm the only one who is impressed since most other people I know would never devote so much space to such obscure music.

I love having all my music digitally.

The ability to create this huge library of music and alter it in any way possible, transfer the music anywhere at fast speeds, create personal albums, edit albums to my preference, play music almost anywhere instantly, well all of that is just wonderful and I would never go back to standard physical media.

But until lossy compression remains the norm, I will continue buying CDs.


Yours is best answer

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

I have not heard my holy grail – Superman: The Music – in CD format – yet….
I’m not even sure if I will…..
Does that answer your question(s)?
I am actually worried, that I won’t do it – if I ever do – will I notice the difference?
Will I hear more instruments, richer orchestrations – or better clarity for that matter? I don’t know?
Maybe I don’t want to know….
….and you know why – because you cannot program a CD to do the play-list you want.
Another example - SANTA CLAUS THE MOVIE - that 3 CD set is awesome, and it sounds even better than any of the Superman Music I have heard, but - will I ever hear the CD?
An example of play-lists is that I will create my own version of Santa Claus: The Movie using the instrumental tracks of the CD, rather than listening to it as the original CDs are programmed, and that is an advantage itself.
But, unfortunately, as mentioned - if you don't have back up copies - you can lose the digital product!
For me, it is more about the play-list, than the sound of the music, such as, can more instruments be heard?
The CDs are already remastered. Much better than I have ever imagined, so I don’t mind buying the digital downloads. (I hope they are much cheaper).
But….
As long as the CD is available to purchase, I will always buy that first!
Think of it this way…..
Would you buy “Cocoon” if it was half price, and available for 320 kbps without the cover, and no liner notes, and ALL you have is the music?
Or…. Would you pay full “NORMAL” price for the CD, but you know yourself – actually – that the CD itself, will never be played, because you will immediately upload it to your hard drive?
I will always buy the CD – no matter what the cost, and – as mentioned – I am buying 2 copies of Cocoon, because that is how much I love it.
Pros and Cons are in everything out there.
There will always be day and night in everything – loving the greatest music in the world, unfortunately comes very pricey!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:40 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Logistically I feel your pain. I moved house a couple of years ago and had to transport just over 6000 CDs. But I wouldn't change it for the world.

Physical media gives you the poster art, the liner notes (nowadays quite substantial), the ability to listen without having to wire up your laptop or whatever powers your external drives. Individual albums can be moved around the house quickly and easily.

Plus you have to store the original discs somewhere, why not your primary listening space?

Digital files are convenient, but they just doesn't do it for me. I don't rip anything unless I want to take a particular album on a trip, and they I rip it to my Galaxy S4.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

For last year I lost almost every joy in buying CD´s because of CUSTOMS OFFICE.
I know that customs office is doing what is legal but paying 20% VATS of final price with shipping charge for music CD´s is crime + add 5USD taken by POST as some kind of "holding" charge. I even return package once, when the price of CD´s was about 20 cents over limit and with all customs and postal fees I would pay almost 30% of price of package. For 30USD (1 limited ed. CD+shipping) it is another 11USD for customs and post.
Not very funny to pay it for every CD from US or Japan.


But... offset that against boundary limitations on downloads. US can't download some European downloads, and vice versa.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:48 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Of course, an obvious answer is that soon enough we probably won't have any choice, CDs will go the way of the Dodo. As it is, I'm the only person amongst my friends, family and work colleagues who actually still buys CDs of any type. Everyone I know only downloads now (legally or not), many for the reasons Schiffy states. I get strange looks when I say I still buy them, and get the adage that the 90s have long gone. I have the feeling it is the tide that won't be turned. It's unrealistic to think CDs will continue to be manufactured in the long term.

And yet CDs still, by and large, offer better sound quality than downloads. The general public is a bit thick really, following trends whether they make sense or not.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

A new compact packaging from publishers, eliminating the "jewel case" would significantly reduce bulk. Maybe something that could get down to 2mm thick. If only the digital content could be stored in the printed content medium with longevity of the compact disc as it is now.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2013 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

Like many here, I buy CDs all the time. But I do what many other folks here do: I rip the CD (in lossless FLAC) and they go away essentially forever. Now, I'll admit it does look nice to have all those CDs on the shelf but really I'm the only one who is impressed since most other people I know would never devote so much space to such obscure music.

I love having all my music digitally.

The ability to create this huge library of music and alter it in any way possible, transfer the music anywhere at fast speeds, create personal albums, edit albums to my preference, play music almost anywhere instantly, well all of that is just wonderful and I would never go back to standard physical media.

But until lossy compression remains the norm, I will continue buying CDs.


^ Pretty much this. I love having the album art and liner notes, getting it signed, and having resale value if it turns out I don't like the CD as much as I thought. But the perks of having the music digitally are too big to ignore.

 
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