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 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   richie_pags   (Member)

Hey Guys,

Just wondering your thoughts on if the current Varese Predator 2 would ever be re-released by another company?

Any need for it to be?

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 12:34 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

Count me in.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 12:35 AM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Hey Guys,

Just wondering your thoughts on if the current Varese Predator 2 would ever be re-released by another company?

Any need for it to be?

Cheers


I really don't think it will be re-issued on another label. I think like with most of the 80's and 90's stuff they have Varèse owns the rights perpetuity. Which is unfortunate since scores like Stargate and The Matrix should have been 2-CD's and not 1.

I'm pretty sure had La-La Land beaten Varèse to the punch of securing the rights for Stargate they would have released the entire score for it and not just be expanded with a few new tracks.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 3:19 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

The sound quality on the existing Varese CD is dire. I'd welcome a remastered expansion.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

I wouldn`t say the sound quality was dire... the original Gorky Park was dire, not Predator 2.

Regardless, yep, chronological & complete, I`m there.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 5:03 AM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

Hey Guys,

Just wondering your thoughts on if the current Varese Predator 2 would ever be re-released by another company?

Any need for it to be?

Cheers


Couldn't you just use the search function? I mean how many threads do we need for this?

Varese owns the rights until eternity (as for many other great 80s/90s stuff), they don't seem like they want to do it, period.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

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What are you trying to say?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Shock-Wave   (Member)

Well we received a Scream DX ed. So hopefully Varese will consider doing the same w/Pred 2. I sent a suggestion to Varese on their facebook page a year ago. It' nothing I know but I'm still crossing my fingers.

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

I don't really find any of the material not on the album all that compelling. Maybe the un-cut version of Tunnel Chase. (Why's it called tunnel chase again? There's no tunnel involved. Did Silvestri flash back to Back to the Future II?) Other than that, meh. Though the audio issue is definitely an... issue. I put off buying it for years in hopes of a better sounding release but once I heard Varese owns it in perpetuity I realized I'd better just buckle down and get a used copy for as cheap as I could find. (It's a bit overpriced in my opinion.) The first one is a masterpiece and this one is a nice companion. In fact, I've been humming parts from the original all day. Love it!

Now, as a side note, if a Predator 4 were ever made I'd like it if Silvestri could come back. If anyone else screws us out of another score in this franchise by him I'll hunt them down for sport and kill them for pleasure! I'm looking at you A-Team!!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Predator was one of those instances where you saw the movie and went looking for the soundtrack immediately and wadda ya know: if was out on CD AND it contained the amazing end titles cue. A decade ago, that wasn't something to take for granted. It really is a monument of a score, I love the percussion in this one and if there's more of it, I'll definitely buy it. I'm sure it's a matter of time before it gets another release.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)


I really don't think it will be re-issued on another label. I think like with most of the 80's and 90's stuff they have Varèse owns the rights perpetuity.


I don´t think a soundtrack label holds the rights to anything "perpetuity".
The studio wouldn´t be that stupid as they would only lose on it by giving varese the rights that way.
Maybe they have the first rights to prolong the rights before another label thou...

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)


I really don't think it will be re-issued on another label. I think like with most of the 80's and 90's stuff they have Varèse owns the rights perpetuity.


I don´t think a soundtrack label holds the rights to anything "perpetuity".
The studio wouldn´t be that stupid as they would only lose on it by giving varese the rights that way.
Maybe they have the first rights to prolong the rights before another label thou...


You're wrong about that. Varèse does hold a lot of their titles in perpetuity. MV from La-La Land has commented on this before. La-La Land had tried to go after some of the 90's titles that Varèse had released but he said they weren't able to secure the rights because Varèse owns the rights to them indefinitely.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I don´t think a soundtrack label holds the rights to anything "perpetuity".
The studio wouldn´t be that stupid as they would only lose on it by giving varese the rights that way


They don't "give" those rights away. They are purchased by the label. As in all negotiations, you only give away what you have to. But in a circumstance where no label is at all interested in releasing a score, and then a label (in this case, Varese) offers money in exchange for those rights, the studio would in fact be stupid to refuse the money, even if it comes with the caveat of perpetual rights. Especially twenty years ago, when nobody could have foreseen the current (but still very limited) market for expanded reissues.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

I've asked this before but I wonder why LLL couldn't license some titles from Varese as they would from any other label (Sony, UMG, etc.).

This year marked the start of a co-production deal between Intrada and Disney. I'd love to see something similar with Varese and another label.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   ?   (Member)

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=67936&forumID=1&archive=0


I already started a thread on this. They should be merged.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2011 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   richie_pags   (Member)

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=67936&forumID=1&archive=0


I already started a thread on this. They should be merged.


I'll use the search feature next time smile

Regarding Predator 2, I would snap it up quick smart.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2014 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

This may definitely happen.

I just went into the website of the audio production house, D2, the company that is responsible for the CD remastering of such albums as La La Land’s The Blue Max and Varese’s The Abyss-The Deluxe Edition. If you click on the word “clients,” you’ll find Predator 2 listed as “Soundtracks/Soundtrack Reissues 2014.”

http://d2mastering.com/

If Varese does own the title perpetuity, with D2 involved, I am thinking this release will be a Deluxe Edition rather than an Encore Edition, as the CD mastering for the latter series has been done by Erick Labson

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2014 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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 Posted:   May 17, 2014 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Predator 2 - complete

 
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